The Facts about Connally's Wounds

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FB post made by Linda Giovanna Zambanini. Linda has a background in nursing. I'll take this from Linda over a thousand pages of "research" by certain others on this topic every single time. Yes, we all knew the SBT was crap - but now we have an actual logical explanation for the wounds and prima facie evidence that a change in stories was coerced.

Frankie Vegas, I don't think you or Greg Parker are in a the JFK groups I'm in, so I wanted to share with you and the whole Downunder Crew a BOMBSHELL I found yesterday! :
I came upon a fascinating WBAP TV (NBC) film that is composed of clips from JFK's Texas stops. It has many clips I have never seen before, including an absolute BOMBSHELL from an interview of Dr. Shaw and the other surgeon, Dr. Shires, discussing their surgery on Connolly.
Dr. Shires opens, saying there were 3 wounds - and lists the back wound separately from the wrist and leg wounds, calling it a "tangential wound" - not a through and through wound. Shaw then says CLEARLY, the bullet that entered Connolly's back DID NOT PENETRATE into the body cavity! It was STOPPED by the rib which it shattered and fragments of the rib penetrated the pleura (lining) and lung. The bullet did not penetrate the lung - let alone transit the thorax and exit the anterior chest wall! Of course, this is absolute proof the "magic bullet" was a complete fabrication - the bullet never passed THRU THE BODY to hit the wrist and then the thigh! It completely and utterly destroys the SBT! The clip goes from 40:00 to 43:03. At 41:00 Shaw starts talking about the back wound .... at 41:45 - 42:07 Shaw says:
"In other words, the bullet never actually entered the body cavity, but it caused an opening into the body cavity, by the shock like impact against the rib, which it fractured. THE BULLET, ITSELF, DID NOT ENTER THE BODY CAVITY - IT ONLY WENT THROUGH THE CHEST WALL."
In concluding, Dr. Shires says he agrees with Mrs. Connolly that it's a good thing he turned because "...otherwise the bullet would have been straight through and through and would have involved the heart."

http://www.nbcuniversalarchives.com/nbcuni/clip/51A02395_s01.do

jack ferguson wrote:Stan,

Without agreement on what happened there can't really be progress. You have to ask yourself why disagreement rules in research circles. I think because telling the truth has never really been the goal. It's been to cover-up certain aspects and promote nonsense like the grassy knoll.

There is no such thing as agreement on what happened in this case. Proof is the ultimate endeavour. You can prosthelytize your research efforts all you like but at the end of the day it just becomes reserach and you can dump it with the rest of it we've had for 53 years.
Ther reason we hark on about Prayer Man is because if we can get that clearer scan its proof Oswald was on the steps. All the other stuff doesn't matter.
I've done the shot sequence to death on forums. Nothing not even reason works. The WC left the shot sequence alone and never committed to it. It was simple to deduce. Bring in all the witnesses to watch the Zapruder film and get them to time the shots or at least the first. As far as I know only Connally was invited to do it and he wasn't even a witness really more a victim. If they invited the witnesses the SBT could not happen. Now we know all this but cannot do anything about it. This needs proof and the proof is on the steps of the TSBD. Make no mistake about it. That guy is Oswald. We need further proof through a clearer scan.

There were at least 5 shots, all of which are verified through government reports and independent research. Jfk was shot twice from the front and once from the rear. What's brand new is the back shot came at the very end immediately before the headshot. And it's that evidence, which could change the game in the modern day. The following times are approximate but close.

1. (160) Missed

2. Jfk shot in throat (223)

3. Connally (231-234)

4. Jfk shot in back about 1/10th of a second before headshot.

5. (313) Jfk shot above right eye

Mr. SPECTER - How many shots were there altogether?
Mrs. HILL - I have always said there were some four to six shots. There were three shots---one right after the other, and a distinct pause, or just a moment's pause, and then I heard more.
Mr. SPECTER - How long a time elapsed from the first to the third of what you described as the first three shots?
Mrs. HILL - They were rapidly---they were rather rapidly fired.
Mr. SPECTER - Could you give me an estimate on the timespan on those three shots?
Mrs. HILL - No; I don't think I can.
Mr. SPECTER - Now, how many shots followed what you described as the first three shots?
Mrs. HILL - I think there were at least four Or five shots and perhaps six, but I know there were more than three.

http://www.dufourlaw.com/JFK/shot_pattern_excerpt.PDF

Go there, Jack. This is Andrew Masons work I told you about. He goes through various witness reports and statements and isn't selective. Like I said this guy is a lone gunmen theorist that dismisses the SBT. I've only come across two of those in my lifetime but the point is over 80 percent recall hearing 3 shots so I'll go with that for now. That first missed shot at Z160 is bogus. Ive watched the Zapruder at least a hundred times and no reaction from anyone around Z160 but the giveaway is that over 80 percent of witnesses say JFK reacted, slumped, pulled his hands up to his throat after the first shot. Its clear they are talking about Z223.

"Make no mistake about it. That guy is Oswald. We need further proof through a clearer scan"


Paul, why is it that I feel if a clear scan were to prove it's not Oswald, then such a scan would fall out for all of us to see like shit from a cow's ass?


just sayin'.

Jake Sykes wrote:"Make no mistake about it. That guy is Oswald. We need further proof through a clearer scan"


Paul, why is it that I feel if a clear scan were to prove it's not Oswald, then such a scan would fall out for all of us to see like shit from a cow's ass?


just sayin'.

For sure Jake. Not only that the but the pricks would rub that shit on our faces.
I wonder why its so difficult to find. I mean they do have it but they don't know where it is. Lame for NBC standards as well as 6FM. Pathetic.

Gotta believe they do know exactly where it is Paul.
In the meanwhile it leaves open for others to make shit up.
And do they ever. Seems like a new line of bs cycles through every couple of months. Obviously those efforts are intended for the uninitiated, or the purveyors of such nonsense or just plain loco.

Jake Sykes wrote:Gotta believe they do know exactly where it is Paul.
In the meanwhile it leaves open for others to make shit up.
And do they ever. Seems like a new line of bs cycles through every couple of months. Obviously those efforts are intended for the uninitiated, or the purveyors of such nonsense or just plain loco.

No doubt, Jake. Vaulted or offed somewhere unknown. In the meantime they'd rather have us counting shots and ignoring the fucking obvious.

Maybe it is hidden in Doyle's hospital room in the mental hospital where he is a patient at.

Not until very recently did I realize that jfk was shot in the back right before the headshot. My focus was always on the exit wound and the headshot with some work put into the bullet hole in the windshield. I never had strong feelings about the last 2 shots, but mostly believed one was fired to confuse those on elm street. 

Everything important has finally come together and makes perfect sense for the universal belief that Kennedy was shot three times. Two of those shots coming from the front make any rear shooter totally irrelevant. This new evidence is the only way the government would ever revise this case because they could simply add a gunshot wound without changing any prior conclusions from decades ago. 

The back shot had to come from a different shooter because there wasn't enough time to get off another shot, as the last 2 shots were separated by less than a 1/4 second. It takes at least 3/4 of a second between shots.

"At the moment I looked at the back of the President I heard another fire-cracker noise and saw the shot hit the President about four inches down from the right shoulder. A second shot followed immediately and hit the right rear high of the President's head."

For starters, the Zapruder film clearly shows jfk's back being impacted right before he's shot in the face. It kinda looks like a 'pow' from a batman episode. The other two films also show an impact but not quite the same way. What SS agent Glen Bennett reported seeing is exactly confirmed by all three films. For all intents and purposes the jfk assassination has finally been solved.

Vinny wrote:Maybe it is hidden in Doyle's hospital room in the mental hospital where he is a patient at.

Doyle's not in a mental hospital, Vinny. He has 24/7 personal supervision. He is allocated computer time and his carer just has a cup of tea and reads a magazine while he is allowed an hour to rattle on his keyboard thinking surely nobody in their right mind would give little Brian the time of day. As long as he doesn't self harm the carer gets paid. Then its 3 to 4 zopoclines and strapped to bed for a tight sleep for Brian. He has a routine happening. Keeps everyone comfortable.

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