Why (the one and only) Lee Oswald Looked different on his return from the SU

Sun 25 Jun 2017, 2:48 pm

I was saving this for my book, but what the hell. So sick of mis and disinformation being presented as proven fact.

I'm going to make this as easy to follow and comprehend as I can - something that is anathema to those that this is aimed at with their two thousand collages replete with circles and arrows and descriptions and explanations that seem to have been written by Papuan Highlanders in remedial English classes.

1. Lee Oswald was diagnosed in a Minsk hospital with ascariasis for which he was treated with Piperazine.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=110342&relPageId=22

2. Ascariasis is a disease caused by roundworm.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascariasis

3. Symptoms of ascariasis include weight loss:
http://www.healthline.com/health/ascariasis#symptoms4

4. Side affects of the drugs used to treat ascariasis include hair loss
https://health.wikinut.com/Symptoms-And-Treatment-Of-Ascariasis/21emhjbm/#Symptoms

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As a side-bar, ascariasis is the main reason why it was not Oswald on the bus to Mexico City.

This is because bus witness Pamela Mumford testified that "Oswald" ate copious amounts of Mexican food at every stop on the journey.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/mumford.htm

This is contra-indicated by the evidence that Oswald did not have a big appetite and by the fact that Marina has stated he did not like spicy food. In fact it is likely that Oswald had medical advice to stay away from spicy food as this upsets the roundworms who will then migrate to other parts of the body where more severe damage may result.
https://web.stanford.edu/group/parasites/ParaSites2005/Ascaris/JLora_ParaSite.htm

Clearly it could not have been Oswald on the bus. This leaves only three options:

1. The person was impersonating Oswald
2. The witnesses were mistaken
3. The witnesses were lying

It is unlikely that all bus witnesses who were relied upon were mistaken in exactly the same way, and "mistaken" can therefore be ruled out.

A fifth witness, Albert Osborne, claimed the person who the four said was Oswald , was in reality, a Mexican (although he never spoke to the person, so he may have actually been say a Tex-Mex). Such a person would fit the bill as eating copious amounts of Mexican food along the way.

The two girls (Mumford and her companion) themselves were born in Fiji to English parents. Fiji at the time was a British colony and the vast majority of English people living there were employees of the British Foreign Services.

The other two witnesses, Dr. and Mrs McFarlane were also English. McFarlane came from the type of schools favored as recruiting grounds by British spy agencies. He had been working on a secret project in the US just prior to the trip to Mexico.

All four witnesses became almost invisible after they had served their purpose before the Warren Commission.

My conclusion is that 1 or 3 or both are true given all of the above, but forced to choose only one option, I would simply go with 3.

Sun 25 Jun 2017, 11:01 pm

You put them all to shame Greg. This new research and these excellent conclusions deliver for the first time ever the correct answer to this question. I always thought perhaps the obvious physical decline was stress induced because once back from SU he was still working his ass off for these people and not receiving advancement or benefit while having a family that he needed to support. He was stuck in a rut, big time. But there was no incontrovertible evidence for this. Here you have found and presented clear facts and evidence that absolutely explain exactly why he had become thin and wan. Congratulations, and thank you!

It is no exaggeration and also a confirmed fact (many times over) that ROKC is the only JFK site that gathers and presents new information and evidence concerning the case, at this level. It is done with clarity and purpose in advancing truth. I'll never understand the motives behind the way the majority of people in this area just toy with it and pretend they are doing something important. It's weird. That's all I'll say about it today.

Mon 26 Jun 2017, 9:05 am

Jake Sykes wrote:You put them all to shame Greg. This new research and these excellent conclusions deliver for the first time ever the correct answer to this question. I always thought perhaps the obvious physical decline was stress induced because once back from SU he was still working his ass off for these people and not receiving advancement or benefit while having a family that he needed to support. He was stuck in a rut, big time. But there was no incontrovertible evidence for this. Here you have found and presented clear facts and evidence that absolutely explain exactly why he had become thin and wan. Congratulations, and thank you!

It is no exaggeration and also a confirmed fact (many times over) that ROKC is the only JFK site that gathers and presents new information and evidence concerning the case, at this level. It is done with clarity and purpose in advancing truth. I'll never understand the motives behind the way the majority of people in this area just toy with it and pretend they are doing something important. It's weird. That's all I'll say about it today.

Thanks Jake.

Among the list of evidence taken by authorities was another round worm medication, which indicates he still had ascariasis right up until the end.

Mon 26 Jun 2017, 10:01 am

greg parker wrote:

Jake Sykes wrote:You put them all to shame Greg. This new research and these excellent conclusions deliver for the first time ever the correct answer to this question. I always thought perhaps the obvious physical decline was stress induced because once back from SU he was still working his ass off for these people and not receiving advancement or benefit while having a family that he needed to support. He was stuck in a rut, big time. But there was no incontrovertible evidence for this. Here you have found and presented clear facts and evidence that absolutely explain exactly why he had become thin and wan. Congratulations, and thank you!

It is no exaggeration and also a confirmed fact (many times over) that ROKC is the only JFK site that gathers and presents new information and evidence concerning the case, at this level. It is done with clarity and purpose in advancing truth. I'll never understand the motives behind the way the majority of people in this area just toy with it and pretend they are doing something important. It's weird. That's all I'll say about it today.

Thanks Jake.

Among the list of evidence taken by authorities was another round worm medication, which indicates he still had ascariasis right up until the end.

You do realise you've given Hargrove a dilemma? Harvey, or Lee (fucked if I know which) now needs a malady. A furious exchange will ensue between Hargrove, JA, The Fez and if she's got the time, the VBL.
A bookmaker friend suggests the following

2/1 The Mange
7/2 The Clap
4/1 Tennis Elbow
8/1 Rickets
25/1 Black Death
40/1 Verruca
80/1 Tonsiltis

Mon 26 Jun 2017, 11:38 am

steely dan wrote:

greg parker wrote:

Jake Sykes wrote:You put them all to shame Greg. This new research and these excellent conclusions deliver for the first time ever the correct answer to this question. I always thought perhaps the obvious physical decline was stress induced because once back from SU he was still working his ass off for these people and not receiving advancement or benefit while having a family that he needed to support. He was stuck in a rut, big time. But there was no incontrovertible evidence for this. Here you have found and presented clear facts and evidence that absolutely explain exactly why he had become thin and wan. Congratulations, and thank you!

It is no exaggeration and also a confirmed fact (many times over) that ROKC is the only JFK site that gathers and presents new information and evidence concerning the case, at this level. It is done with clarity and purpose in advancing truth. I'll never understand the motives behind the way the majority of people in this area just toy with it and pretend they are doing something important. It's weird. That's all I'll say about it today.

Thanks Jake.

Among the list of evidence taken by authorities was another round worm medication, which indicates he still had ascariasis right up until the end.

You do realise you've given Hargrove a dilemma? Harvey, or Lee (fucked if I know which) now needs a malady. A furious exchange will ensue between Hargrove, JA, The Fez and if she's got the time, the VBL.
A bookmaker friend suggests the following

2/1 The Mange
7/2 The Clap
4/1 Tennis Elbow
8/1 Rickets
25/1 Black Death
40/1 Verruca
80/1 Tonsiltis

Steely, can you put 2 Euros each way on Tonsilitis for me... unless it's been taken out at the barriers?

Mon 26 Jun 2017, 12:20 pm

Tonsilitis was remo...withdrawn by a far west syndicate.
It has been replaced by Bullshit.
All bets stand.

Mon 26 Jun 2017, 12:41 pm

Late entry from an owner called Planet Earth...
Horse is called ..Hmmmmm
Even money shot.

Mon 26 Jun 2017, 2:31 pm

steely dan wrote:Tonsilitis was remo...withdrawn by a far west syndicate.
It has been replaced by Bullshit.
All bets stand.

This Bullshit better be friggin good then.

Mind you, I've heard Bullshit does fly around some tracks.

Okay. I'll stick with Bullshit. Whose the jockey?

Mon 26 Jun 2017, 5:14 pm

greg parker wrote:

steely dan wrote:Tonsilitis was remo...withdrawn by a far west syndicate.
It has been replaced by Bullshit.
All bets stand.

This Bullshit better be friggin good then.

Mind you, I've heard Bullshit does fly around some tracks.

Okay. I'll stick with Bullshit. Whose the jockey?

Due to it's size Bullshit will be piloted by
B Doyle
A Doyle
R Yates
J Stevenson
And an Intel Spook.....who moonlights for a stud farm and will be performing "other tasks" during the race.
A man wearing a red hat with black tassels and carrying a bucket will run along side.

Hence the long odds.

Mon 26 Jun 2017, 11:11 pm

Alan,

Is it too late to get a small wager on the Black Death line?

It's had a pretty good run in the past and I'm not sure her racing days are finished.

Tue 27 Jun 2017, 3:19 am

Black Death could be an astute pick, Terry. We know folks who are keen on stuff that was thought to be long since eradicated.

Tue 27 Jun 2017, 3:26 am

steely dan wrote:

greg parker wrote:

steely dan wrote:Tonsilitis was remo...withdrawn by a far west syndicate.
It has been replaced by Bullshit.
All bets stand.

This Bullshit better be friggin good then.

Mind you, I've heard Bullshit does fly around some tracks.

Okay. I'll stick with Bullshit. Whose the jockey?

Due to it's size Bullshit will be piloted by
B Doyle
A Doyle
R Yates
J Stevenson
And an Intel Spook.....who moonlights for a stud farm and will be performing "other tasks" during the race.
A man wearing a red hat with black tassels and carrying a bucket will run along side.

Hence the long odds.

Still trying to get my hands on a snapshot of Bullshit, but I did find a picture of his sire, Tinker's Dam. Old Tinker could accommodate multiple jockeys. Like father, like son, I'm guessing.

Why (the one and only) Lee Oswald Looked different on his return from the SU Tinkers%20Dam

Why (the one and only) Lee Oswald Looked different on his return from the SU Tinkers%20Dam

Tue 27 Jun 2017, 9:27 am

If that is Bullshit by Tinker's Dam out of Hoof'nMouth, then I'm in for Bullshit to win, place, and show on EF, Foo, and Facebook.

Tue 27 Jun 2017, 9:38 am

Jake Sykes wrote:If that is Bullshit by Tinker's Dam out of Hoof'nMouth, then I'm in for Bullshit to win, place, and show on EF, Foo, and Facebook.

He has an outstanding record on those tracks, and has a sizable following among the track regulars who always cheer him on. I can see his odds tightening dramatically before the start, though late entry Hmmm is bound to get lots of mentions during the race.

Are they taking bets on the Clerk of the Course? He'll be on retired champ, Head Scratcher... but there is life in that old boy yet and he may just cause a boilover.

Tue 27 Jun 2017, 2:47 pm

Sportsbooks have Bullshit handicapped as Bullshit has been spread thin in the last few heats
Repetition and Circular Logic are now strong favorites

Tue 27 Jun 2017, 4:39 pm

Wed 28 Jun 2017, 12:33 am

Now that is a tail of whoa I'm a smartass &

Sat 12 Aug 2017, 5:16 am

Its just so amazing...the "common sense" approach to investigative research that you provide Greg....I read your analysis while even laughing out loud at times because its just insane and genius...thank you and I hope to personally be extremely cautious in my own research in the same manner.

Speaking of Mexico City, I know one thing....I am damned cautious around LHO "being" in Mexico City...I wanted to read up on Azcue and Duran.....I had a simple question that I mentally asked myself....have either of those 2 EVER been simply shown a photograph of LHO and asked "was THIS MAN the one who came into the consulate?"?

Here's another thing (please bear with me guys) you have Mumford....her entire damned testimony....about whom? I mean if it wasn't LHO, who the hell is she talking about? (no sarcasm intended!)

Tue 07 Nov 2017, 8:22 am

On 11/6/2017 at 8:03 AM, Michael Walton said:
Have you even read Greg Parker's stuff? He even discovered that Oswald had roundworm for crying out loud.

josephs wrote:You may want to read a bit more about that MW....
Have you seen the source materials?

Josephs is throwing mud again. If he has a problem with my source materials, he should spell them out. He won't. He can't.

Vague aspersions that he hopes will stick is the best he can do.

Tue 07 Nov 2017, 8:07 pm

Came across this a while ago as I was cleaning up/organizing some files. Made this by request a few years ago to help us keep straight different images of Oswald relative to the H&L theory. I don't remember what thread it's in so I'll put it here.

Why (the one and only) Lee Oswald Looked different on his return from the SU LHO%20Image%20Legend%20R2

Why (the one and only) Lee Oswald Looked different on his return from the SU LHO%20Image%20Legend%20R2

Tue 07 Nov 2017, 10:02 pm

Stan Dane wrote:Came across this a while ago as I was cleaning up/organizing some files. Made this by request a few years ago to help us keep straight different images of Oswald relative to the H&L theory. I don't remember what thread it's in so I'll put it here.

Thanks Stan. some of the images posted previously didn't survive. The URLs stopped working or the images were uploaded to photobucket which changed it's policy that caused some issues.

Wed 06 Jan 2021, 3:41 am

Thanks Greg, just brilliant! You have successfully put Lee Harvey Oswald (the one and only) back on the map/minefield.

In the short time I have been looking into this in any depth, I am yet to be convinced by the 'many faces of Lee Harvey Oswald'/'Harvey and Lee' theses.

Clearly, LHO was impersonated on many occasions, if to what precise ends is not always certain. (Perhaps the end - confusion - justified the means?)

Given that the earliest such recorded occurrence was in January 1961, I suspect that the groundwork for removing JFK probably began as soon as he was elected to the Presidency, if not beforehand.

Whatever LHO's mission/reasons to go out to the USSR in the first place (false defector/CISIU dangle?), by the time he was recalled his controllers (or persons above them) had a completely different mission in mind ('Operation Patsy'?), even if that differed from what LHO was led to believe it was. Forgive my supposition and/or speculation. It's just what my instincts tell me based upon my limited reading of the case thus far.

(And please forgive me for being over three years late. I'll engage with the forum more often/fully and specifically when I have read and studied a lot more and have something much more substantive/worthwhile to contribute.)

David

Wed 06 Jan 2021, 8:40 am

greg_parker wrote:

Jake Sykes wrote:You put them all to shame Greg. This new research and these excellent conclusions deliver for the first time ever the correct answer to this question. I always thought perhaps the obvious physical decline was stress induced because once back from SU he was still working his ass off for these people and not receiving advancement or benefit while having a family that he needed to support. He was stuck in a rut, big time. But there was no incontrovertible evidence for this. Here you have found and presented clear facts and evidence that absolutely explain exactly why he had become thin and wan. Congratulations, and thank you!

It is no exaggeration and also a confirmed fact (many times over) that ROKC is the only JFK site that gathers and presents new information and evidence concerning the case, at this level. It is done with clarity and purpose in advancing truth. I'll never understand the motives behind the way the majority of people in this area just toy with it and pretend they are doing something important. It's weird. That's all I'll say about it today.

Thanks Jake.

Among the list of evidence taken by authorities was another round worm medication, which indicates he still had ascariasis right up until the end.

Greg, great thread by the way,
Do you know where the medication was discovered: at the Paines? Or the alleged Beckley stash.

Wed 06 Jan 2021, 10:16 am

Greg, great thread by the way,
Do you know where the medication was discovered: at the Paines? Or the alleged Beckley stash.

Mick, there is an inventory which divides the evidence up between the two locations, but not able to quickly locate it.

What he was taking in the US was Pentids 400 to treat the intenstinal infection caused by roundworms. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=62240&relPageId=54 . Unfortuately this inventory does not give location. It was definitely for him. He was diagnosed with the infection in the Soviet Union and treated with similar meds there. Possibly something that started in th Marines in Seouth east Asia.

Wed 06 Jan 2021, 8:37 pm

The Harvey and Lee brigade at the EF have gone completely silent for the past few weeks. I wonder what happened.

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You ain't gonna know what you learn if you knew it.......

Checkmate.

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You ain't gonna know what you learn if you knew it.......

Checkmate.

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Checkmate.

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You ain't gonna know what you learn if you knew it.......

Checkmate.

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You ain't gonna know what you learn if you knew it.......

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