Beware The Hydes Of March

Was Ruth truthful about hearing the news on November 23rd and marking her calendar with a star on March 20th marking the top with a star and the words 'LHO Purchase of Rifle'

Seems to my eye that she has written more in less space.

Then we are told that she missed putting it in November 23 and wrote it in square for October 23rd.


I have a huge problem with this whole convoluted story, of the March 20th vs Oct 23rd numerical nuisance.

First , There is no STAR in the square for the 23rd of October.
It is an X.
Just like we have already established the X's are her monthly visitor.
As seen in Sept. 25th.
So what is the lie about October 23rd and November 23rd date swapping??
Why the confusion when there seems to be none?
Other than Lee's Bday and knowing his middle name Wink Wink

But that is not why I am really questioning the Calendar Notes.
It is another date that draws my attention more than the odd Un-starred date of Oct 23.

See Exhibit 16  
An Envelope addressed to the Russian Embassy from Post Office Box 6225, Dallas, Tex, postmarked November 12, 1963.

On Tuesday, November 12, 1963, less than six weeks after his return from Mexico City, Lee Harvey Oswald, extremely upset and agitated, walked into the downtown offices of the Dallas Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and asked to see one of its agents. Upon being told that the agent was at lunch, Oswald angrily threw a handwritten, signed note addressed to the agent onto the desk. The note warned the agent to stop harassing his wife, Marina, a Russian citizen, and threatened the FBI that he would take action against them if they persisted. Oswald’s visit to the FBI and his threatening, signed note only ten days before the assassination were not publicly revealed by a compromised FBI for twelve years. More important, they demonstrate that Oswald had no plans to assassinate the president before November 12.3

As frustrated as Oswald may have been when he returned to the United States in early October, he had not completely given up hope of defecting to Cuba. On or about Tuesday, November 12, the same day he visited the FBI offices in Dallas, Oswald sent a letter to the Soviet embassy in Washington, DC, asking for help in speeding up his request for a Soviet visa so that he could acquire a Cuban transit visa. In the letter, he informed them of his frustrated attempts at their embassy in Mexico City only weeks before and described his anger with both the FBI for harassing his wife and the Cuban consulate in Mexico City for denying his transit visa. In all probability, had Oswald been granted a Soviet visa, he would have returned to Mexico City and tried to complete his defection to Cuba. However, the Soviet Union had dealt with him before and was not about to issue a visa to a man whom they considered mentally unstable.
~SEVEN DAYS IN NOVEMBER


What did ruth say in her statement?

4. After we made the purchases, all of us returned to my station wagon,
entered it, and I drove directly to my home in Irving, Texas. Upon arrival there,
all of us entered my home where we remained throughout the balance of that day
and evening. Marina and Lee Oswald and their children were present in my
home throughout the two following days and evenings, November 10 and 11, 1963.
Lee Oswald returned to his work at the Texas School Book Depository Tuesday
morning, November 12, 1963. I was present in my home throughout November 10
and 11, 1963, except as described in paragraph 13.

12. Lee Oswald was not in my home and to the best of my knowledge was not
in Irving, Texas, at any time on November 6 or 7, 1963. My recollection is clear
that on each of tho.se days, as well as November 8, 1963, Marina and her two
children, June and Rachel, were present in my home day and night. Lee Oswald
arrived at my home from Dallas, Texas, between 5 :30 p.m. and 6 :00 p.m. on
November 8, 1963, for his customary week-end visit, which as to this particular
week-end was to extend over through Armistice Day, November 11, 1963. Ex-
cept for the trip to Dallas, Texas, on November 9, 1963, which I have described
above, Lee Oswald remained in my home from the time of his arrival, the late
afternoon of November 8, 1963, until he departed for Dallas, Texas, in the early
morning of November 12, 1963.

13. I was not present in my home for part of the day on November 11, 1963.
As I testified, I made a trip that day, which was Armstiee Day and a holiday,
to Dallas, Texas. I was gone from approximately 9 :00 A.M. to 2 :00 P.M. Not
wishing to burden Lee and Marina with my children, I had them stay at my
neighbors the Craigs. Marina and Lee Oswald and their children were in my
home when I left and were there when I returned. Based upon my conversa-
tion with Marina and Lee Oswald, and my understanding of their plans for the
day. it is my clear opinion that all of them remained in my home during my trip
to and from Dallas.




From THE JFK ASSASSINATION CHRONOLOGY
Compiled by Ira David Wood III ~

November 12 1963
The Soviets announce that Frederick Barghoorn has been “arrested as a spy.” Barghoorn
has served in the Moscow Embassy in the 1950’s. A well-known Soviet expert and frequent
traveler to Moscow, he has taken a Yale Russian seminar to the Soviet Union in March. Dean
Rusk is told that Barghoorn’s arrest is probably in “retaliation” for the FBI’s arrest in New York
two days earlier of Igor Ivanov, a Soviet undercover agent. He presumes the Russians want
“trading material.” Furious at the arrest, JFK asks McGeorge Bundy to make sure that
Barghoorn is actually innocent of espionage. Richard Helms reports back that the professor has
“no ties to the CIA or Army.”
This is also implied to be the day that LHO enters the Dallas FBI office and leaves a note
for agent James Hosty. Hosty will testify that the note said in effect: “If you have anything you want to learn about me, come talk to me directly. If you don’t cease bothering my wife, I will take appropriate action and report this to the proper authorities.” Ray & Mary La Fontaine, in Oswald Talked, suggest that this note might have contained a warning about the planned assassination of JFK ten days from now. Following the assassination Dallas special agent-incharge, Gordon Shanklin will order Hosty to destroy the note - which he does. Shanklin will later deny knowing of the note. The Assassinations Committee will note in 1979 that it “regarded the incident of the note as a serious impeachment of Shanklin’s and Hosty’s credibility,” adding that “it was not possible to establish with confidence what [the note’s] contents were.” William Sullivan will eventually say that “Hoover ordered the destruction of the note. I can’t prove this, but I have no doubts about it.” OT

LHO rides to work from Irving with Wesley Frazier, returns to his roominghouse on the
Beckley bus later. He posts his letter to the Russian embassy. AOT
Marcello’s trial reopens in New Orleans and runs until November 22. AOT


How is Lee in Hosty's office when he is at work?
Buell drove him to work.
He supposedly takes bus to rooming house after work.
How does he do anything more than stick the letter in the mail?

And what is with the square for November 12th?
She uses a STAR. just like for LHO Purchase Of Rifle.


What did ruth say in her statement?

Mr. JENNER - 1962. Any other reference or entry in the month of February that has relation to the Oswalds?
Mrs. PAINE - At the top is written "Marina last period February 5" crossed out "or 15th." This refers to menstrual period trying to figure when the baby would be due, and it was an inaccurate notation I learned later. Then there is a note written at the time, the only one on this page that refers to the Oswalds that was written at the time, and that says, "Everett's?"
Mr. JENNER - Entered where?
Mrs. PAINE - On the 22d of February, and from this----
Mr. JENNER - And you have already testified about that?
Mrs. PAINE - From this I deduced that was when I first met them.
Mr. JENNER - Now, I turn to March, and I direct your attention to the upper left-hand corner of that card, and it appears to me that in the upper left-hand corner are October 23, then a star, then "LHO" followed by the words "purchase of rifle." Would you explain those entries?
Mrs. PAINE - Yes. This was written after.
Mr. JENNER - After?
Mrs. PAINE - This was written indeed after the assassination.
Mr. JENNER - All right.
Mrs. PAINE - I heard on the television that he had purchased a rifle.
Mr. JENNER - When?
Mrs. PAINE - I heard it on November 23.
Mr. JENNER - Yes.
Mrs. PAINE - And went back to the page for March, put a little star on March 20 as being a small square, I couldn't fit in all I wanted to say. I just put in a star and then referring it to the corner of the calendar.

Mr. JENNER - That is to the entry I have read?
Mrs. PAINE - Put the star saying "LHO purchase of rifle." Then I thought someone is going to wonder about that, I had better put down the date, and did, but it was a busy day, one of the most in my life and I was off by a month as to what day it was.
Mr. JENNER - That is you made the entry October?
Mrs. PAINE - October 23 instead of November.
Mr. JENNER - It should have been November 23?
Mrs. PAINE - It should have been November 23.
Mr. JENNER - And the entry of October 23, which should have been November 23, was an entry on your part indicating the date you wrote on the calendar the star followed by "LHO purchase of rifle" and likewise the date you made an entry?
Mrs. PAINE - On the 20th.
Mr. JENNER - This is the square having the date March 20?
Mrs. PAINE - Yes.
Mr. JENNER - Is that correct?
Mrs. PAINE - I might point out that I didn't know Lee had a middle name until I had occasion to fill out forms for Marina in Parkland Hospital.
Mr. JENNER - That is when you learned that his middle name was Harvey and his initial was H?
Mrs. PAINE - Right.
Mr. JENNER - Any other entries in March relating to the Oswalds?
Mrs. PAINE - Yes.
Mr. JENNER - Identify it, please, first as to date.
Mrs. PAINE - And this written at the time it happens to be also on March 20, it says, "Marina," and I judge that this was the time we had scheduled for me to come to her, and I believe it is the date referred to in one of the letters as "until the 20th."
Mr. JENNER - You have already testified about this incident?
Mrs. PAINE - Yes.
Mr. JENNER - Any others?
Mrs. PAINE - Not for the month of March.

Mrs. PAINE - Yes.
Then on the 11th there is a notation "Marina appointment PMH" Parkland Memorial Hospital, "8 a.m." This was our first appointment as I recall, when we applied for care. There is an entry on October 15, "Work L start." This was a mistaken entry and it is crossed out, written down after he called to say he had received work, he didn't actually start working until the 16th, and I have written on the 16th, "Lee work start," and also "HOS" for hospital, and "10:30 a.m." That would be Parkland. I would be certain it was.
Mr. JENNER - Were those entries made contemporaneously with the occurrence of the events they seek to record?
Mrs. PAINE - All except the corrected, "Lee work start," which was made after the assassination, when I realized he didn't start work on the same day that he received the acceptance.
Mr. JENNER - How soon after the assassination did you make that corrected entry?
Mrs. PAINE - Quite soon I'd say. I was being asked each day by many people when did he start to work, and when I put together the necessary sequence of events of having been at coffee at my neighbors, following by his applying, following by his starting, it had to be on the 16th that he had started. Then on the 20th of October is a notation, one word in Russian which says "she was born." It is followed by "10:41 p.m., 6 pounds 15 ounces."

Hosty?
Mr. JENNER - You recall that the FBI interviewed you on Friday, November 1.
Mrs. PAINE - That is right.
Mr. JENNER - And do you have an entry to that effect?
Mrs. PAINE - No, I did not mark that down.

Mr. JENNER - And that was probably an entry made in advance to, remind you that she had a dental appointment?
Mrs. PAINE - Yes.
There is an entry on November 11, "Veterans Day." I have already referred to the fact that I was away from 9 or so in the morning until about 2 in the afternoon and this was a day that Lee was at home or at the Fifth Street address at my home.
Mr. JENNER - What date is this?
Mrs. PAINE - Veterans Day, the 11th. It was a Monday.
Mr. JENNER - It is a Monday. And he was at home?
Mrs. PAINE - He was at home that day, and I was away from about 9 in the morning.
Mr. JENNER - Excuse me so we don't get the record confused as to what home means.
He was at your home?
Mrs. PAINE - Yes.

Where is her explanation for the November 12th calendar date
and notation both crossed out
And What was Marguerite doing in Gregory's Russian class?
ON NOVEMBER 12th!!??!!





I am not buying Ruth's testimony,

It doesn't make sense.
Did she go back and make errors once she knew the correct dates
or did she put down the wrong dates of dates she had yet to know only to later correct those dates?
I need a minute...

So Lee is typing out these envelopes and letter

But what, he writes out a note to Hosty, on what?
Wrapping paper from the TSBD?
His lunch sack?

What amount of time is Lee missing from work during Nov 12th lunch "hour" 45 minutes if lucky...

So he hoofs it to Hosty's office on his lunch break?
Is this believable or just myth

And did he type up the note to Hosty on Ruth's typewriter?
Was it the same as the Kostikov letter????

I don't know its weird, the November 12 activities are an eye popper, brain scratchers.




As result of a series of mysterious events, at least three versions of this letter are known to exist. In apparent chronological order of creation, these three versions are a handwritten draft, allegedly in Oswald’s hand, the letter sent to the Soviet Embassy, and a handwritten copy of the letter in the hand of Ruth Paine. Paine testified to the Warren Commission that she took the unusual step of copying the purported original because its potentially seditious contents worried her sufficiently to resolve to pass on her version of the letter to FBI agents who had twice visited the Paine family residence in search of the elusive Lee Harvey Oswald.
Rather extraordinarily, when the Warren Commission turned its attention to the circumstances and significance of the letter, its counsel and members heard testimony based not on the copy received at the Soviet Embassy, nor on the draft allegedly in Oswald’s hand. Instead the Commission relied on Ruth Paine’s crib. 
The strange career of Ruth Paine’s version of the letter sheds light on the fear of the FBI that the letter may thwart their efforts to establish Lee Harvey Oswald in the public mind as a “lone nut” whose murder of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy was planned and performed by Oswald, and Oswald alone. The Russian Embassy version remained uninterrogated. It appeared in an appendix of the Warren Commission report. 
The strange career of the fair copy of the letter mailed to the Soviet Embassy illuminates the danger the letter and the information contained in it posed to world peace and the looming peril of a nuclear war between the USA and the USSR, the world’s superpowers.
Perhaps most intriguing of all, however, is the scrappy draft, allegedly in Oswald’s hand. This document sprang into existence and was inserted into the chain of evidence in such a way as to cast doubt upon its bona fides as the nascent thoughts and half formed expressions of a notorious assassin. 
Researchers have long questioned the authenticity of the copy of the letter introduced into evidence in the Warren Commission. All three versions of the letter contain several unexplained errors and misstatements:
1. The purpose of the statement “unless I use my real name” may have been to fool the reader into believing that Oswald had not used his real name in Mexico. If Oswald never travelled to Mexico City, but wanted the reader to believe he had, then this statement provided the answer as to the question why US authorities were unable to track his movements in Mexico.
2. The purpose of the statement the “embassy there would have had time to complete our business” is extremely provocative and gives the impression that Oswald and Soviet government officers were working together on some scheme inimical to US national interests.
3. The author of the letter wrote that James P. Hosty warned him on November 1 “If I engaged in FPCC activiites in Texas the FBI will again take an interest iin me.” The only people who met FBI agent James Hosty or knew that he visited the Paine residence were Ruth Paine and Marina. Lee Harvey Oswald never met with Hosty on November 1 or any other time prior to the assassination. Therefore the people who knew about Hosty’s visit prior to November 9 were Oswald, Ruth Paine, Marina, and readers of Hosty’s FBI reports.
4. NOTE. Immediately following the assassination J. Edgar Hoover denied the FBI had any knowledge of Oswald. When the November 9 letter was made public it caused considerable embarrassment for the FBI because of Hosty’s alleged contact with Oswald only three weeks before the assassination. The first time Oswald came into personal contact with Hosty was on the afternoon of November 22, when Hosty sat in during Oswald’s interrogation.
5. Marina’s maiden name, Marina Nikolaevna Prusakova, was spelled as Nichilayova, a mistake that Russian speaking Harvey Oswald is highly unlikely to make accidentally.
6. The author of the letter informed the Soviet Embassy that Oswald’s newborn daughter was named “Audrey Marina Oswald,” when her legal and true name was “Audrey Marina Rachel Oswald,” a mistake that Harvey Oswald would not make accidentally.
7. Perhaps the most important key in understanding whether this letter  contained only Oswald’s world view was the statement, “…he has since been replaced.” The author of this letter was referring to the Cuban Consul in Mexico City, Eusebio Azcue Lopez. At the time this letter was written Azcue had not been replaced and was still in Mexico City (he did not return to Cuba until November 18). Oswald was allegedly at the Cuban Consulate on September 27 and spoke briefly and acrimoniously with Azcue.
After leaving Mexico City there is no way that Oswald could have known that Azcue would be replaced by Mirabor two months later. Whoever wrote this letter had knowledge of operations within the Cuban Consulate and prior knowledge that Azcue was returning to Cuba. The person who had access to this privileged information, perhaps through telephone taps and hidden microphones in the Cuban Consulate, and could have provided such information to the writer of the letter would have been the head of Cuban Operations in Mexico City, David Atlee Phillips, a native of Ft. Worth.
It cannot be stressed too strongly that at the very least, Oswald’s foreknowledge of the future course of the career of Eusebio Azcue Lopez disqualifies the letter as the production of a loner without a network of information and contacts in diplomatic and/or intelligence circles. It is also possible is Oswald played a small role or even no hand at all in authoring this letter. (Though he may have typed it, on instruction).

The Role of Ruth Paine

Ruth Paine was one of the few people who knew about FBI Special Agent Hosty’s visit to her home on November 1, and was the person who allegedly owned the typewriter that was used to type this letter.
NOTE: FBI SA James Wood obtained typewriting specimens from a Smith-Corona portable typewriter; Serial Number 4A 303942, allegedly owned by Ruth Paine, that matched the typewriting on the letter to the Soviet Embassy.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=111185#relPageId=104&tab=page
The Dallas Police obtained numerous letters and correspondence from Ruth Paine’s house following the assassination, but all her correspondence was in her own handwriting — not a single item was typewritten. Thus the only document found at the Paine’s house that was written on the Smith-Corona portable typewriter was the mysterious letter under consideration to the Soviet Embassy. This typewriter, which was possibly not owned by Mrs. Paine prior to the November 9 letter, is known to have been used on only one occasion — to type the letter to the Soviet Embassy that was used to link Lee Harvey Oswald with Soviet officers. These facts suggest that Ruth Paine participated in the creation of this letter with an individual who had intimate knowledge of operations within the Cuban Consulate in Mexico City
https://peternewburysblog.wordpress.com/2013/07/29/oswalds-kostikov-letter/

Cheers, Ed

Nothing to see here

No I mean there is literally nothing to see here:

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=76198&relPageId=19&search=%22november_12%22

November 12th a day that will live in ....mystery?

Interesting rifle cases,
That is LEGAL cases

No rifle or ammunition cases on file for Oswald... but one for Thomas Vallee

And they have a fetish for November 12th

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=57717&relPageId=81&search=%22november_12%22

SA Lawson goes to Dallas November 12th and stays there till Kennedy arrived

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10404&relPageId=12&search=%22november_12%22

and just when I though I had seen all of the Paine Hyde puns...

there is def. more to all of this. 

Perhaps even a bit of witchery...

Not intending to butt in but I am so...forgive me
Here is a newspaper article from the DMN Dec 7th 1963 about Ruth and the FBI and telling them he was working at the TSBD etc,

http://www.prayer-man.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/KIC-Document-0025-DMN-Dec-7-1963-Ruth-Paine.jpg

barto wrote:Not intending to butt in but I am so...forgive me
Here is a newspaper article from the DMN Dec 7th 1963 about Ruth and the FBI and telling them he was working at the TSBD etc,

http://www.prayer-man.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/KIC-Document-0025-DMN-Dec-7-1963-Ruth-Paine.jpg

Which leads nicely into all the utter bullshit she spouted about phones numbers being left by LHO.  She claims in the above newspaper article that she didn't know where Lee was living.  This was on an alleged October 16th trip to Irving by Hosty.  But she, according to her testimony, had the phone numbers Oswald had given her that she didn't hand over to the FBI.  This October 16th trip is up for debate.  The actual official narrative has these visits by Hosty on November 1st and November 5th.

*Would be helpful if I read the article properly.  LOL

The phone number malarkey is where she dug a hole for herself and, IMO, shows the nexus that was created after the fact about his living arrangements.

She claimed that the weekend LHO was allegedly kicked out of Bledsoe's house he gave her the phone number - even though on Monday he simply returned to the Marsalis house to collect his gear. - so the phone number was fucking useless  Then she says he gave her the number for Beckley - even though he was registered under an assumed name.  So, this phone number too was fucking useless.  And he kicked off, according to Paine, when he found out they used the damn thing.  Please!

Just read this bastard's testimony about the phone numbers and his visits and you can actually see her tie herself up in knots on certain dates.  The whole thing is fucked up.

Lee,
I can hear the call,
"Okay Ruth.. yeah I gotta go, they are kicking me out.
Here write down the number. See you in a few!"

Cant imagine why this phone number biz wreaks havoc with her calendaring?

And Hosty couldn't verify employment???
Sounds fishy.

Ruth gives Hosty that number ... but what, does she not give out the rooming house or apt. number/s

Again dodgy

Good stuff Bart.
Cheers, Ed

Add furniture rearranged to November 9ths activity of
VOTE


So, did Lee have a voter registration?
He did not vote....
Odd for a political news hound who expressed them quite often.
But not on November 9th?
Really

Mr. JENNER - Do you recall doing some shopping on the morning of the 9th after you had gone to the driver's license bureau and found it closed?
Mrs. PAINE - Yes, we shopped at a dime store immediately adjacent, or in the same shopping center as the driver's license bureau.
Mr. JENNER - And some few small articles were purchased?
Mrs. PAINE - That is right.
Mr. JENNER - And you arrived home when--about noon?
Mrs. PAINE - For a late lunch, I would say. I might say Lee was as gay as I have ever seen him in the car riding back to the house. He sang, he joked, he made puns, or he made up songs mutilating the Russian language, which tickled and pained, Marina, both at once.
Mr. JENNER - What did he do that afternoon, if you recall?
Mrs. PAINE - I don't recall.
Mr. JENNER - Did he look at television?
Mrs. PAINE - My guess is that he certainly looked at television.
Mr. JENNER - Did you leave your home late that afternoon?
Mrs. PAINE - I went to vote. This would be a trip of perhaps 20 minutes.
Mr. JENNER - And he was at home when you left? And was he at home when you returned?
Mrs. PAINE - Yes.
Mr. JENNER - Now, at any time during that morning drive did you by any chance stop by a car dealers?
Mrs. PAINE - No.
Mr. JENNER - Either going to or from the driver's license bureau?
Mrs. PAINE - No, we did not stop at a car dealers.
Mr. JENNER - What is your opinion as to whether Lee Oswald could have been at the Lincoln-Mercury dealership in downtown Dallas on that day?
Mrs. PAINE - I think he could not have been.
Mr. JENNER - Was he out of your sight other than the period of time it took you to go to the polls to vote that day?
Mrs. PAINE - It is entirely possible that I made a short trip to the grocery store in the afternoon. But I would say he was not out of my sight for any length of time.
Mr. JENNER - In any event, you were conscious of his being in your home or within your general presence all day.
Mrs. PAINE - The entire day. Shall I give what recollections I have for activities of the 10th?
Mr. JENNER - Yes, please.
Mrs. PAINE - It is my best recollection that this lesson in parking to which I have referred occurred on the 10th, late in the afternoon.
Mr. JENNER - That is Sunday afternoon?
Mrs. PAINE - On Sunday afternoon. I would guess that he had watched pro football on the television in the afternoon. It was early evening after supper, and my recollection is that Michael Paine was also at the home. I cannot recall whether he had had supper with us, but I would guess so. Then I asked the two men, Lee and Michael, to help me in rearranging the furniture in the living room. And as I have already said, in reference to my testimony regarding the note, Commission Exhibit 103, the note referring to Mexico City--I will add to that testimony here--I remembered suddenly that this note was still on the top of my secretary desk in the living room, preceded the two men into the room, and put it into my desk. This is the folding front, you know. I just opened it, put it in and closed it. And then we moved all the furniture in the room around.
Mr. JENNER - The two men were Lee Oswald and your husband?
Mrs. PAINE - That is right
Mr. JENNER - And on that occasion, you took the note, which is Commission Exhibit 103, which I call the Mexico note, and you put it inside the secretary.
Mrs. PAINE - Yes.
Mr. JENNER - And----
Mrs. PAINE - After having left it on my desk for 2 full days, waiting for it to be picked up.


Okay... So the 10th is furniture rearranging day and also learning to drive/park. Unlike those terrorist drivers whom don't care to learn parking.

Representative FORD - Mr. Frazier testified that Oswald mentioned to him that he was going to or had, I am not sure which, and I was wondering whether he mentioned it to you?
Mr. DULLES - Got in line.
Mrs. PAINE - Yes, on November 9, which was election day, Saturday, in Texas.
Mr. JENNER - This was the weekend he was home?
Mrs. PAINE - This was the weekend that he was home, which was the last weekend he was home, don't call it home though.
Mr. JENNER - I am sorry. It was the last weekend that he was at your home?
Mrs. PAINE - That is correct.
Mr. JENNER - And he arrived the previous day, evening or late afternoon?
Mrs. PAINE - That is correct.
Mr. JENNER - Now starting with that Friday afternoon, please relate the course of events?
Mrs. PAINE - Well, I will say that we went Saturday morning to a station in Dallas where you can take the written test and eye test that permits you to get a learner's permit, but when we got there that is all of us, children, Lee, Marina and myself, driving in my car to Oak Cliff--when we got there it was closed, being election day. I hadn't thought, realized that this would mean it would be closed. So we returned. The next weekend---
Mr. JENNER - Excuse me, before you reach that.

Cut her off Jenner!!
Next weekend Friday, November 15, Oswald remained in Dallas as the house would be crowded because of a birthday party for Ruth Paine's daughter.

On November 15, Oswald told Frazier that he would not need a ride to Ruth Paine's that weekend because he planned to take a driver's license test in Dallas
According to Ruth Paine, on Saturday, November 16, Oswald said he went by
himself to the Texas Automobile Drivers License Bureau to apply for his
learner's permit, but he arrived very late in the day, and there was too
long a line ahead of him

She had VOTE in the square for Nov 9th and thought the DMV would be open...surprised Lee went along with this trip, wouldn't the post office be closed too?
Do we have a list of state and federal offices closed for Nov 9th Election in 1963 Dallas?

I can see Lee didnt read Jarman's paper November 8th very well
I can see them all going to shopping center which happens to be near or in the same lot.
I can see Buell and Lee talking about drivers tests, as Buell knew all about them during his WC testimony, so they should be chating transmissions and tests... yes?
If not why not.
Was the DMV trip a Ruth invention or what.
Then she slips away to shop, then vote.
Busy shopper/voter no time to read of holidays and closures.

The WC says:




November 19th the parade route is announced in the press                                                                              
How is Lee at a rifle range on the 16th with a rifle that is supposedly in Irving in the Paine's garage disassembled

On November 16th, 1963, Dr. Homer Wood and his 12-year-old son Sterling were at the SportsDome Rifle range when they noticed an individual firing a rifle in the booth next to them. It seemed to them that he was acting strange. The individual in the booth next to them was firing his weapon and catching the shell casings as they were being ejected from the weapon. This caught the attention of the son, who then started to watch this individual more. According to the son, the individual who looked identical to Oswald according to their statements, was firing his weapon and the weapon would have a spark come from the rifle after each shot.
Mr. Slack gives, states that he was at the rifle range November 9th, 10th, and 17th. Again, he mentions that Oswald is not alone at the rifle range when he sees him. In some of his statements, Mr. Slack mentions that Oswald was being driven to the rifle range by a man named “Frazier”.
Bullocks.




So he watched these tv movies at the Paine house on a weekend?
Sinatra's "Suddenly" is drastic difference to the "Snipers Nest of TSBD"

Was it Nov 1st or not?
How would a report be made before the visit?
and an Oct 30th report by Hosty and he knows Lee is not living at the Paine Res.




30th NOT Nov 1st?

I see some spirited discussion involving Ruth Paine going on over at the Foo. One guy even said "Why don't we just abduct her, and take her out in the forest, and [do some very unQuakerlike things to her]." Ha!

Well, here's an oldie but goodie for them to use, Remastered for 2017!

Larry Crafard supplied the 'garage door'... icky