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On "false Defectors" Empty On "false Defectors"

Sat 05 Aug 2017, 4:47 pm
This is from the book Historical Dictionary of International Espionage by Nigel West, the pen-name of Rupert Allason who is apparently widely regarded as the "expert's expert" on the subject.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Allason
On "false Defectors" False_10

So according to Allason, the concept didn't even exist until Dec 1961, based on advice from Golitzyn, with that advice dead wrong and only one possible example of a false defector from the Soviet Union ever materializing - and that was in the 1970s. 

Is Allason dead wrong? Is he just ignoring any US program? Or were their other ways of describing such a program prior to Golitzyn?

I think Allason answers the question. Yes, they were called "penetration" agents and had a different role to that suggested by Golitzyn.

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On "false Defectors" Empty Re: On "false Defectors"

Sat 05 Aug 2017, 4:58 pm
Oleg Kalugin
Was accepted in the West as a genuine defector
Gained a job in a sensitive field
Eventually redefected

Lee Harvey Oswald
Was accepted by the Soviets as genuine
Gained a job in a sensitive area (the factory had a highly secretive experimental section) 
Married
Redefected

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Don Jeffries

"I've been aware of Greg Parker's work for years, and strongly recommend it." Peter Dale Scott

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