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Post by Vinny on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 3:40 am

Hargrove has posted some material from a friend about Greg.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/24469-new-article-by-john-armstrong/?page=11

Since you continue to invoke Mr. Parker as if he matters here, let me offer up the following analysis of Mr. Parker's work from my e-pal of many years. My e-friend thinks Mr. Parker is nothing but a fraud. My e-friend's YouTube commentary is presented here with the express permission of the original poster. Here is what he said about Greg Parker:
You have to have a total grasp of where Parker is coming from in order to understand the exact flaws in what he is trying to do... I'm glad however that you once again sussed out the critical flaws in his approach without any understanding of the "Harvey & Lee" background of this issue...
Greg is the first person to demand precise methodology and evidence when he is dodging someone else's good claims, but typical of his ROKC group does not demand the same from himself..."Grandiose" might be one way of describing Parker's approach... I have some other words to add....

Because you haven't participated in the general debate you are not aware that Parker is trying to hide symptoms of Lee Oswald being doubled-over by the CIA double "Harvey" behind pseudo analyses of psychiatric conditions.... Parker is trying to portray the anti-social secretive behavior of a CIA spy as being due to Asperger's syndrome, but as you cleverly figured out it doesn't wash according to common sense and Oswald's real profile that Parker avoids by drawing you to his bogus lectures...
What Parker isn't being honest about is the fact Lee probably showed those psychiatric quirks because he was part of a CIA program that went back to his childhood and may have even murdered his father.... Because Lee was raised in this intel bubble in a dysfunctional family he exhibited mental traits equal to such an average southern boy in such a situation.... Maybe even Marguerite too....

Parker ignores the true cause and interpretation of this diagnosis in order to contrive his specious Asperger's theory...A wise observer would realize that Parker is making up this Aspergers explanation exactly because he is aware that Oswald's learning of Russian has no good explanation if it was just Oswald alone... Also, Parker is not honestly mentioning that Oswald had no time to learn Russian according to his Marine schedule... Moreover the Asperger's Parker refers to is an extreme condition that displays overt symptoms that military doctors and overseers would not miss... The savant aspects of Aspergers exist in an inverse relationship where the worse the condition the more the individual is able to perform the intuitive skill he focuses on... So just like you said, this would leave the individual unable to perform in the normal range and the Marines do not miss such defects...But even further, in his response Parker seems to confuse what Moorek is saying....

This is typical of Parker because he avoids information he can't give an honest answer to....  Moorek was not talking about Oswald's learning of Russian she was talking about the fact that the Oswald heard in the police station and on radio shows did not have the noticeable southern accent of Lee Harvey Oswald and that it was not linguistically normal to 'unlearn' such a core language feature under Oswald's circumstances...
This is what John Armstrong was also saying in his book 'Harvey & Lee' and the explanation for it is that the Oswald you are seeing in those scenes is a CIA double from Manhattan whose family had a background in Russian language through Hungary... Mr Parker is not explaining why his language savant Oswald did not pick-up Spanish in his interactions with the Cuban exiles?...Oswald also showed skill in concealing his covert activities for an alleged Asperger's victim....

Why do you continue to invoke Mr. Parker to defend the Warren Commission? Why is Mr. Parker always endorsed by Warren Commission apologists like you? Do you think any of us believe him?  Explain to us why Mr. Parker was banned from this forum, and the Deep Politics forum, and why we should believe you that we should believe him.  Why should we consider him to be anything but yet another shill for the Warren Commission, just like you?  Just askin'.

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Re: More Greg Bashing From Hargrove

Post by Vinny on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 3:41 am

Here is what my friend wrote even earlier....

It seems to me that you are not familiar with Mr Parker, his website, or his agenda... The beauty of what you wrote is that you apparently have no knowledge of the Harvey & Lee theory or Mr Parker and his credulous agenda yet you managed to suss out the important details in both.... 

Mr Parker is the head cult leader of the notorious "Reopen Kennedy Case" website (ROKC).... His group focuses on vandalizing the evidence to the Kennedy assassination by taking a pre-emptive contrarian view to the accepted evidence for conspiracy and offering alternate opinions....

This deliberate destruction of the finer evidence for the conspiracy is self-referred to by ROKC as "thinking outside the box', but it is really just an ill-minded attempt to attack the known conspiracy evidence and try to get people to take them seriously....

Unfortunately they have fooled some less cautious conspiracy figures.... 
In reality the group is a collection of ill-inspired hacks who see their mangling of the evidence as enlightened breakthrough interpretations of what people failed to see before when the truth is it is a sad collection of internet "Skeptics" who dwell on a perverse sense of misguided sophistry to the degree of intellectual disease.... Please do not take this man or his group seriously....

Parker's Asperger's theory for Oswald was driven by his need to get around John Armstrong's evidence for a CIA double named "Harvey" who was used as an espionage trick to send a false defector in to Russia.... As you so wisely detected this person came from New York and did not have the southern accent Lee did....

Parker has a cult following who accept whatever he claims, however common sense tells you that any Asperger's condition that was severe enough to cause such results would have been noticeable and therefore prevented Oswald's admission to the US Marines.... As you wisely detected, Mr Parker's bogus "skepticism" mirrors the denial thought processes of Lone Nutters and other infamous deniers like David Von Pein.... 

If you don't know, Oswald's Russian abilities arise from "Harvey" (Oswald's CIA double) having a family background in spoken Russian and therefore adapting to it naturally - as was the plan in order to make him useful in his false defection to the Soviet Union.... Yes, Mr Parker is inventing a type of mental condition for Oswald, only he is doing it to get around evidence for a CIA doubles program involving Oswald....

Mr Parker is a fool and xxxx..."Idiot Savant" was first described in 1887 by Dr John Langdon Down...Mr Parker's attempt at Lemonade Stand Pop Psychology is laughable and pathetic seeing how it is only being used to dishonestly deny the obvious evidence for Harvey & Lee...

My e-friend is pretty smart.  Even smarter than Greg Parker and the CIA.

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Re: More Greg Bashing From Hargrove

Post by steely dan on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 4:14 am

Vinny, after scraping the barrel, Hargrove went back and scraped it again. He passed the bits through a sieve and was left with a wild rant from Doyle to support H&L.
If Hargrove were a true friend to Brian he would make strenuous efforts to have the Unicorns posting privileges reinstated. They could then stun the world with the sperm experiment theory.
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Re: More Greg Bashing From Hargrove

Post by greg parker on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 9:13 am

Vinny, it's the very definition of desperation to rely upon Brian. 

He has been invited here to debate me (and reminded about it yet again of that by Tracy). But he had better hurry. Time is running out.

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Post by Terry W. Martin on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 11:18 am

He says "it is only being used to dishonestly deny the obvious evidence for Harvey & Lee..." I may not be among the savant-styled idiot crowd but I have yet to see any "obviousness" in the H&L codex.

The frothing-at-the-mouth followers of H&L remind me of those who lap up the scattered bits of JVB or the faked-Z film, or any of the other niches within the conspiracy "community".

Every new twist and turn introduced by such charlatans takes us further and further from a unified examination of the case from any intelligent perspective and their devout followers tned to rend the "community" asunder.

To them, it is a matter of "scoring points" rather than clearing up the case.

I am only happy to know I will not be around fifty years from now when such things are still going on and the petty bickering continua amongst themselves is all that will be holding any remaining "community" together.

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Post by Terry W. Martin on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 11:28 am

I also can't understand why Hargrove calls Greg a "WC apologist". Greg is anything BUT one of those.

When asked about the Cuban stress analysis, Hargrove sidestepped and refused to answer.

His appeals to authority recur so many times in the single post that I lost track. If he cannot write intelligently, perhaps the illustrious Hargrove should curtail posting until some remedial actions are taken.

God I hate reading such stupidity.

What I hate more is that there are so many who read that drivel and find it intelligent!!

Methinks I shall take an extended vacay from the forums fairly soon. I've exceeded my head-shaking and hand-wringing quota for this lifetime. I'd rather watch paint dry... and crack...

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Re: More Greg Bashing From Hargrove

Post by Paul Francisco Paso on Tue 12 Dec 2017, 8:46 pm

Hargrove is Armstrong's pool boy. He hates Greg cause Greg makes him work harder than he should. I mean at the end of the day he's cruising forums trying to sell books. Greg's trying to get this case reopened.
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