Just when you thought you have seen it all

Thanks to Rob Clark

barto wrote:Thanks to Rob Clark

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Oliver- " i loved you in that film..tell me what was Fay Wray really like?, and how did they make you look less hairy?"
Judy-" Why wasn't i in your film..Jim Morrison fell in love with me when i was a go go dancer on the Sunset Strip"
Oliver- "You'll be perfect for my next film Judy.."The Erotic Adventures of Godzilla" begins shooting next spring...in Cancun"
Judy-" Cancun!! I've been there before..no wait"
Judy-" and that's when Lee's mastoidectomy went pop!'
Judy- " and that's when my mastoidectomy went pop!!..yes $50 000 would do fine..Mr Millegans found this doctor in Zimbabwe that cures mastoidectomy cancer"
Judy-" yes I've still got the whip Dave used on Clay...$100 000 and it's yours..and don't believe the Cointelpro trolls when they say its just one of my old tampons that's been left out in the Sanibel sun..have you been t Sanibel before Ollie? You should check it out...i filmed the shower scene in Psycho in a motel down there...Hitchcocks wife got me fired..Alfred fell in love with me you see.."
Oliver- " yes Judy you do look like Marty Feldman!"

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Oliver Stone and Judyth Baker within the hour in Dallas at the Doubletree Hotel as photographed by Peter Battani, one of my Facebook friends..
When they were done talking, Stone got this beautiful grin on his face, put his arms around Judyth warmly said to her, "I believe you."

 Oliver has lost quite a bit of credibility with this.

I have it on good authority (who shall remain nameless) that Baker will not be part of the O.S. docu.

I was watching the JVB Conference YouTube feed live when Stone came in and interrupted Christopher Fulton's talk. Stone hugged JVB and said~quote ~"You're a great lady with a great mind."
~ Complimented her on doing a good job "running these conferences ", and told her he couldn't stay, he had to speak at "the other thing", and told her "there will be other times, I can be with you."

As relayed to me by Doug Campbell of the Dallas Action Podcast 

What a circus this is turning out to be. JVB is laughing all the way to the bank.

I can't know of course but I speculate that Stone could simply be staying out of dodge. To publicly say "You are a lady full of shit" could be to motivate a run at deep pockets. Better to say "I believe you", give a hug, promote his stuff, and move on. Show biz and all....(I believe her too by the way  ).... Acting!

Jake Sykes wrote:I can't know of course but I speculate that Stone could simply be staying out of dodge. To publicly say "You are a lady full of shit" could be to motivate a run at deep pockets. Better to say "I believe you", give a hug, promote his stuff, and move on. Show biz and all....(I believe her too by the way  ).... Acting!

That's just as bad, Jake.

You know as well as I do that she will wring everything she can out of that endorsement, including getting a foot in even more doors.

Apart that, he apparently almost broke his legs bolting back to her after speaking at CAPA. Why do that if he doesn't really believe her? Why did he give her any time at all? He has all the confidantes he needs in the way of Jimmy di and others who could have told him to stay clear of her- and why. In fact, I have reason to believe that Jim may have tried to warn him. 

The other thing is that he apparently already believes Beverly Oliver - another fraud.

I put most of this on the shoulders of certain members of CAPA who helped elevate her and her conferences over the last few years by way of publicity and speakers. There will be no stopping the Judyth Juggernaut now.

And so it turns. Who's greasin' who? Either Stone has the worst PR people going or he is being duped. At this level they're playin' for high stakes IMO. I think Stone probably still remembers oh so well how many of the "locals" he upset last time round with his JFK installment. His people and hers are playin' eveyone. Welcome to the circus!

Meantime all the serious shit is happening right here.

Thanks to Vinny

How about some video, thanks to Vinny.

https://www.facebook.com/chris.wolney.1/videos/10220694734948713/

One more thing:
Brian Doyle ought to be talking at a shit fest like this. He fits right in, like a used condom.

This is shitty annoying.....I was just telling Doug this via facebook. It sickens me. How JVB could weasel her way in without ever being seriously challenged by more researchers (and even students such as myself) pisses me off to no end.... Oliver you should honestly steer very clear of that woman. Challenge her claims with the evidence, its not difficult at all and even now, Walt Brown wrote a book using her own words to attack her claims vs the evidence. If anything he ought to give it and LHO's Cold War a read and call it a day, be done with her.

I keep on vomiting inside my mouth after seeing more and more of this rubbish.


https://www.facebook.com/davidlindsayneal/videos/10221499195775040/

It's hard to take alright.

I guess I'm in denial but Stone seems to be humoring her. He's calling her book a love story, a movie, controversial on the facts, anything but a work to be taken seriously, then his face when she says 'Dutch thieves' stole her book. At that point he seems on the verge of calling for "Check please!" and bolting. If he's taking her seriously then he's a fool, and I just don't think he's a fool, or at least I really don't want to think he's one. Denial again maybe.

Just unfuckingbelievable. So nauseating, truly.

Jake Sykes wrote:I guess I'm in denial but Stone seems to be humoring her. He's calling her book a love story, a movie, controversial on the facts, anything but a work to be taken seriously, then his face when she says 'Dutch thieves' stole her book. At that point he seems on the verge of calling for "Check please!" and bolting. If he's taking her seriously then he's a fool, and I just don't think he's a fool, or at least I really don't want to think he's one. Denial again maybe.

You know Jake, I'm with you on this one. I'll defer to pass judgement on Stone. I would imagine he is a smart operator. I'm not so sure he's being completely duped here. He maybe just playing the game. He is a story teller first and foremost, that's his trade. He'd be a fool not to look at everything put in front of him. Let's see where this ends up.

Mick Purdy wrote:

Jake Sykes wrote:I guess I'm in denial but Stone seems to be humoring her. He's calling her book a love story, a movie, controversial on the facts, anything but a work to be taken seriously, then his face when she says 'Dutch thieves' stole her book. At that point he seems on the verge of calling for "Check please!" and bolting. If he's taking her seriously then he's a fool, and I just don't think he's a fool, or at least I really don't want to think he's one. Denial again maybe.

You know Jake, I'm with you on this one. I'll defer to pass judgement on Stone. I would imagine he is a smart operator. I'm not so sure he's being completely duped here. He maybe just playing the game. He is a story teller first and foremost, that's his trade. He'd be a fool not to look at everything put in front of him. Let's see where this ends up.

While I admire the optimism shown here, I have seen and heard nothing that that gives me even a snifter of hope that this is all "acting" or playing the game.  

We also now know that Sean, his son, interviewed her in 2014 and praised her and her book. I'm guessing Oliver probably read the book around that time as well.

Not saying he will make a movie about her - though I can see her and people pushing for it. But at the very least, she will find some way to leverage his endorsement. I cannot see anything good developing from this at all, unless OS has his head turned around.