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Ed.Ledoux
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Mon 28 Jun 2021, 3:42 pm
First topic message reminder :

Bart shared a very interesting bit.
Its a document talking about the FBI taking seven magazines and testing them for latent fingerprints and indented writing.

FBI seemingly steers clear of indented writing tests on other evidence.
(We have noted a few here at ROKC.)
Here is FBI hunting for gun magazines used to order rifle.

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Of note are the notations on the bottom of the document.
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FOLLOWING PAGE RESULTS UNDER SECTION 11

and the agency documents number
105-82555-454 and page 455.

Thusly page 456 will have the results....
I could not locate that 'next page' but found title pages for it etc.

I found lab results.

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The odd thing is the lab K numbers for 7 magazines is not a series of seven identifiers but 3!
K27 - K29
Seems odd because they had 3 magazines from elsewhere (beckley?).


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Wed 30 Jun 2021, 2:02 pm
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The magazine the pistol ad came from was True Adventures

Now no one has shown why/where/how Lee would have access to let alone read this smutty detective rag. Or why coupon was dated 1/27 ?
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Wed 30 Jun 2021, 5:20 pm
Tip to the American rifleman magazine.

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Wed 30 Jun 2021, 5:38 pm
So .. anyone have the Feb. '63 issue Lee cut(?)
this coupon out of?

(iirc a magazine in evidence matches the/a coupon and someone showed a representation of them fitting together...I can't find it)

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Wed 30 Jun 2021, 5:41 pm
Paul Hoch seemed to have matched up a torn out ad.

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Wed 30 Jun 2021, 5:47 pm
So Fbi had K27 with June 63 American Rifleman and a thumbprint on p.37 and torn out ad for kleins...
Which ends up the FBI had the torn out coupon?
Help me out here
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Wed 30 Jun 2021, 6:03 pm
So where did the government say they got the ad torn from a magazine still at Alba's garage?

Usual suspects:

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Wed 30 Jun 2021, 6:05 pm
Oh my, the cornucopia of the box in the garage keeps on giving.
Well it was Thanksgiving time.
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Wed 30 Jun 2021, 6:34 pm
More on this evidence found...

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and bit by Martha Moyer on the Torn Ads not being on evidence lists.
BAM!

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Thu 01 Jul 2021, 9:45 am
This is a very interesting doc Ed, thanks for posting.

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Fri 02 Jul 2021, 1:44 pm
No worries Mick.
This and the BYP's tied together conveniently together.

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The Fbi lab did such a good job they didn't know the ads fit the magazines DL-15 and DL-16

The lab did such a good job they cant tell if finger prints are on D-85 ( DL-15, DL-16)

Yet a June American Rifleman magazine was subjected to testing.
Cheers
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Fri 02 Jul 2021, 5:38 pm
According to Bonner the goods were found by Moore in Marina's bedroom.

No garage box bollocks.

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Fri 02 Jul 2021, 6:07 pm
So evidence is:
No True Adventures mag rag.
No Feb American Rifleman magazine.
No 36inch carbine rifle with C2766 on it but a 40.2" short rifle with C2766 on it.
No list from 23rd with ads of killer deals.
No worries...
Magazine mafia was strong arming this matter.
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Fri 02 Jul 2021, 6:29 pm
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Claim by Chief Jesse Curry was that this ad was found in Paine's garage... as opposed to Alba's garage hehe. Seriously though.
And it was circled. No fingerprints mentioned...
Yes you guessed it circled are a Carcano and a Smith and Wesson 38.

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Fri 02 Jul 2021, 10:56 pm
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Those boiled brides look very Caucasian.....then again that would lead to another discussion.

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Sat 03 Jul 2021, 4:50 am
No one poached ethnic women back then.
From the cover it appears they only boiled the one white woman..
Case of the crisped caucasians is in the follow up issue.
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Wed 07 Jul 2021, 2:54 pm
Interestingly,
Will Fritz hung on to the two Klein's Coupons till DECEMBER 2nd.

Why?
Did he need to compare them to other ads.
(just like that one spent carcano shell??)

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Wed 07 Jul 2021, 4:17 pm
I hear the oft used excuse that Klein's ran out of 36 inch Carbines and just happened to send a 40.2 inch Short Rifle with the exact same serial number C2766...? huh
Crescent Arms had thousands of rifles.
They had an order for Klein's.
They would ship portions of it as needed.
Kleins had ordered 200 carbines.
Crescent sends them 100.
10 cartons of 36 inch carbines.
Supposedly the rifle C2766 was or wasn't in this shipment.
If it was it was and sent to Dallas it somehow stretched.
And a 40.2 inch Short Rifle which did have serial number C2766 was placed into evidence.
How does Lee's palmprint get on a 40.2 inch rifle he didn't order.
It doesn't.
There never was any finger or palmprint on a rifle found by DPD that matched Lee.
The belated print day sends off on the 27th is a forgery.
He took a photocopy of Lee's palmprint and while it was still hot he takes a lift from the copy.
The still warm and not quite set copier powder is the equal to fingerprint powders.
The tape will now contain a partial palmprint to which is then applied to the rifle barrel for texture.
or vice versa.
The placement of the tape/textured area on the barrel doesn't support Day's claim about it being under the wood. He is no dope... well.. anyways with a fn Loop he could see he had lifted all trace... but no Day says he still saw ridges etc but didn't put cellophane over it. yeah.
He used powder wich will absorb all oils and a lift will not leave anything visible.

Day is not trustworthy on basic matters.
The rifle is exculpatory.
Cheers

PS.
That palmprint... is flat.
The barrel is round.
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Wed 07 Jul 2021, 7:27 pm
Excellent stuff Guys. So both Alba and Paine had magic garages.

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Sun 11 Jul 2021, 12:09 pm
If we believe in Magic then yes.
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Sun 11 Jul 2021, 12:25 pm
I would say the magic happens elsewhere, Paines book shelf... the bureau.

I don't know if Alba had any magic books.
It seems he didn't.
When it comes to pulling rabbits out their respective ten gallon and fedora hats
DPD and FBI had some serious prestidigitation garages.
Heck the Dallas Police Garage made the whole case for conspiracy disappear.
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