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Post by Guest on Sun 20 Jan 2013, 8:43 pm

The George Jefferies film was taken from the corner of Main & Lamar as the motorcade approached. At 0:07- 0:10 it appears that a white Rambler station wagon with a luggage rack on top crosses this intersection. There doesn't seem to be anyone sitting on the passenger side.

This was 4 blocks from the Houston St. turn:

Lamar St. connects directly from Main to Elm. In other words, if this was the Rambler that picked up Oswald, it could have conveniently parked on Lamar or Elm and waited 10- 15 minutes for the motorcade to pass before picking up Oswald.

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Re: Rambler in Jefferies Film

Post by greg parker on Fri 25 Jan 2013, 8:37 am


Good eye! Your suggestion sounds at least possible. I'm searching for a document I recall seeing years ago which may be relevant.

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Re: Rambler in Jefferies Film

Post by Guest on Mon 28 Jan 2013, 6:48 am

The Jefferies station wagon- which looks to me to be a Rambler- is NOT the Rambler cited in "Possible Discovery of an Automobile Used in the JFK Conspiracy"; that particular Rambler, owned by George Gordon Wing, is described as a light warm-grey 1959 Rambler Cross Country Custom station wagon. It has a faux wood-panel sidestrip running its length:

Roger Craig initially described the vehicle as "white" (XXIII p. 81).
It later morphed to a "light green" due to Buddy Walthers' observation, searching the Paines' the afternoon of the 22nd, that the Paines owned a light green Rambler. (This has long been my understanding, but I can't find the citation today).

The famous conversation in Fritz's office, where he asks "What about the car?" and Oswald replies, "That station wagon belongs to Mrs. Paine. Don't try to tie her into this"- Oswald isn't necessarily telling the truth here, meaning that he knew she owned a light green car and that he'd gotten into a white car.

Marvin Robinson's FBI report of 11/23 only describes it as a "light colored station wagon".

Armstrong's "Harvey & Lee" on p. 823 informs that a light-colored 1962 Rambler Ambassador 4-door station wagon was owned at the time by Clay Shaw, citing a letter from the Womack Insurance Agency to Clay Shaw, 3/24/64

And that Lawrence Howard (whom I've long-suspected was the driver) owned a 1959 or 1960 light blue or light green Nash Rambler, citing the HSCA interview of Richard Magison, 5/24/77.


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