It's official: ROKC posters are Profound and Profane
Sat 06 Aug 2022, 11:26 am
Ron said so.
What is it with some people and profanity?
Saying fuck = bad but f*ck = fine?
Calling liars liars = bad but calling them l-i-a-r-s is fine?
The fucking hypocricy involved in that sort of thinking just boggles my mind. The thought that civility to all including liars, trolls and disinfo sociopaths is more important that getting to the facts of what happened and removing the crap from the table in the process, also boggles my mind.
Gil Christ is over on the unmoderated alt.conspiracy.jfk forum doing this as if the asterisk in f*ck makes sense. Why? Will that stop people from knowing what the word is? And even if it did - doesn't that kinda negate the whole point of using it?
As for Ron's comment about intolerance - there are instances of that in every forum - moderated or otherwise. Sometimes it has not been appropriate here, or anywhere it occurs. That is always regretable.
But I say it is perfectly legit - even necessary when confronted with bullshit, trolling and disinformation.
So Ron can go f*ck himself - with or without an asterisk.
This is the ONLY place producing new evidence and insights. Others, including the 13 Inch Head Forum merely regurgititate the alleged Goden Era, 70s through 90s - most of which is now debunked or irrelevant.
Coming soon on the roundabout at the 13 Inch Head Forum.
Breaking News!
Oswald had multiple doppelgangers!
Tippit was Badge Man!
The Second Floor Lunch Encounter beteween Truly/Baker and Oswald was Oswald's alibi!
Every conspiracy book ever written is true!
Jack Ruby killed Oswald to shut him up to protect the mafia!
Ron Bulman @ the 13 Inch Head Forum wrote:I visited ROKC a few times some years ago. While it seemed informative a couple of members there were quite emphatic and intolerant of others in their view, often resorting to profanity.
What is it with some people and profanity?
Saying fuck = bad but f*ck = fine?
Calling liars liars = bad but calling them l-i-a-r-s is fine?
The fucking hypocricy involved in that sort of thinking just boggles my mind. The thought that civility to all including liars, trolls and disinfo sociopaths is more important that getting to the facts of what happened and removing the crap from the table in the process, also boggles my mind.
Gil Christ is over on the unmoderated alt.conspiracy.jfk forum doing this as if the asterisk in f*ck makes sense. Why? Will that stop people from knowing what the word is? And even if it did - doesn't that kinda negate the whole point of using it?
As for Ron's comment about intolerance - there are instances of that in every forum - moderated or otherwise. Sometimes it has not been appropriate here, or anywhere it occurs. That is always regretable.
But I say it is perfectly legit - even necessary when confronted with bullshit, trolling and disinformation.
So Ron can go f*ck himself - with or without an asterisk.
This is the ONLY place producing new evidence and insights. Others, including the 13 Inch Head Forum merely regurgititate the alleged Goden Era, 70s through 90s - most of which is now debunked or irrelevant.
Coming soon on the roundabout at the 13 Inch Head Forum.
Breaking News!
Oswald had multiple doppelgangers!
Tippit was Badge Man!
The Second Floor Lunch Encounter beteween Truly/Baker and Oswald was Oswald's alibi!
Every conspiracy book ever written is true!
Jack Ruby killed Oswald to shut him up to protect the mafia!
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Re: It's official: ROKC posters are Profound and Profane
Sat 06 Aug 2022, 2:27 pm
They place more importance on politeness than truth and accuracy. Better to politely lie than bluntly tell the truth. As long as you do it in a civil tone you can spread all the BS you want any nutty theory you espouse.
Quite a messed up priority.
Quite a messed up priority.
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Re: It's official: ROKC posters are Profound and Profane
Sat 06 Aug 2022, 3:36 pm
Yes, you nailed it, Vinny.Vinny wrote:They place more importance on politeness than truth and accuracy. Better to politely lie than bluntly tell the truth. As long as you do it in a civil tone you can spread all the BS you want any nutty theory you espouse.
Quite a messed up priority.
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Re: It's official: ROKC posters are Profound and Profane
Sat 06 Aug 2022, 5:22 pm
Very correct! And I wear it as a badge of honour.
"This is the ONLY place producing new evidence and insights. Others, including the 13 Inch Head Forum merely regurgititate the alleged Groden Era, 70s through 90s - most of which is now debunked or irrelevant." But you forgot to add Groden's lies & faked evidence.
I'll let you off this time
"This is the ONLY place producing new evidence and insights. Others, including the 13 Inch Head Forum merely regurgititate the alleged Groden Era, 70s through 90s - most of which is now debunked or irrelevant." But you forgot to add Groden's lies & faked evidence.
I'll let you off this time
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Re: It's official: ROKC posters are Profound and Profane
Sun 07 Aug 2022, 2:57 am
Imho the REAL profanities are the embarrassing long debunked fantasies that are persistently churned out, then " debated" to death over there..
Just check out some of their most recent attempts at desecration, sorry, I meant debate
Yet more utterly preposterous claims of photo alteration..John Butler is arch complainer numero uno, he uses the rules as a ruse to allow him to keep propagating his ignorant ramblings. Fundamentally he's an ignorant arsehole, another one who is way too stupid to realise just how stupid he is. His mere presence is an embarrassment. He's not there for debate, or to learn, or deepen his knowledge, because he already knows everything. His ridiculous charade is a profanation of the very notion of research. An uneducated buffoon spreading a load of noxious bilge, then running off to complain like a little bitch when someone tries to inject some reality, and expose his delirious babbling, for the anti intellectual atrocity it is.
An apparent attempt at reviving the even more preposterous ( it is a close fucking call) Mortal Error/ Hickey Done Shot JFK by accident " theory"( long championed by stalwart alterationist and all round conspiracy fantasist, par excellence, the one and only Dr Raul Pigby PhD( Oxon) Tripos ( Cantab))
Initially I thought it was some sort of wind up, but no, once the eminence grise ( not to be confused with Greg Burnham, the eminent grease, and peddler of luxury snake oil remedies, to cure all assassination related maladies, wannabe buy a copy of the " other film"?) M Speer, Milice Commandant , descended from his Olympian sized perch of self regard , being ever so serious , and dispensing wisdom and profundity as if he was fucking King Solomon reincarnated , I realised it was just more of the meaningless fluff than passes for debate...
Worse of all the usual suspects queued up to do their absolute damndest to 13 inch headify Prayerman...
Pete Mellor must have an undiagnosed case of Doorway schizophrenia!! Or maybe doorways just make the poor old soul see double..
After all he's still listed among the " Senior Members " of the OIC,
I know this conspiracy business can get a tad confusing at times, but make up your mind Pete!!
Was Oswald really " Oswald " plus Billy Lovelady's forehead ( HARVEY facemasks optional) or was he a 300lb flat chested grey haired woman with a giant handbag?
Ralph Cinque is toxic, the font of some of the most pungent disinformation, not to mention a brazen con man, profiting from the vulnerable and the insecure. Forget profane language, Cinque and all he represents profane against common humanity. An utterly vile piece of shit. Anyone , no matter how remotely or tangentially associated with him has no place in any company.
Mellors mere presence is one of the reasons why id never fucking join that forum. I wouldn't want to be associated with anyone however remotely connected to Ralph Cinque.
As for Ron Bulman? One of the Swinging Somnambulist Twins? ( he'll bore you to sleep even when you're already sleeping! Yes , folks he's THAT boring)without doubt one of the most boring, least insightful poster on any forum ( including the now defunct Der Forum, the apparently defunct Deep FooFoo and Stinky Mac's Pissarium, that just acts as it was defunct...280 pages plus of Dead Oswald on Tour anyone?)
Talk about dead fish going with the flow!
Vinny was absolutely spot on. Their priorities and sense of perspective is badly askew
As long as you say please and thank you, and you make sure you keep your pinky raised , when sipping your Esrl Grey, oh yes, and as long as you cut the crusts off your cucumber sandwiches , you are welcome to spread the most egregious misinformation , or the most absurd fantasies .
The place has practically been transformed into a de facto ancestral temple, where the shades of the glorious past are worshipped.
With an unthinking and unquestioning zeal.
However, in this particular instance it's more a question of Shitto, rather than Shinto..
Although can you imagine Paul Trejo, the red shirted samurai, attempting to commit seppuku with the oxidized remains of the 35 inch copper plated dildo he and Ron Lewis stole ( amongst other less mentionable items) from the grave of ex General Walker?
" Jason, are you quite sure if ( and only if) I shove it up here I'll die? It actually tickles quite a bit, in fact it reminds me of the time we spent 3 whole weeks researching the state of public urinals in Dallas "
Of course the so called " Golden Age " they hold is such rigid dogmatic esteem, was in reality anything but golden..
Fair enough not everyone can be cutting edge A list researchers or genius detectives, and everyone is entitled to their opinions , but at the very least I think a serious effort should be made to ensure some of the most outre gibberish doesn't go unchallenged.
Thankfully Jeremy B, Jonathan and RCD can invariably be relied upon to puncture the most gaseous balloons, before they even get the chance to leave terra firma, but still...
Something is very wrong with a so called debate forum, or any sort of forum for, that puts pedantry before progress.
On the contrary, as if attempting to live out all reactionaries wettest dreams, they seem determined to make a fetish out of regression. The odd fond backward glance us all very well, in fact sharing forum space with the likes of Butler its probably advisable , but these clods seem determined to ensure if any movement at all is to be made, its going to be in reverse..
Look at what they're attempting to do with Prayerman!! Intentionally or not , they miss the entire point, choosing instead to turn the " debate " into lugubrious display of hot air ballet...waft after waft of mindless ephemera pirouetting languidly through the fetid air, as Ron and his chums down in the peanut gallery ooh and ash in paroxsyms of giddy rapture..
In such a controversial, highly polarised ( and politicised) subject mis and disinformation spreads like cancer. Anyone who seriously cares about this case should always try to counter bullshit, ensuring it doesn't spread..
As we've all seen some bullshit, especially when its been sprinkled with a little Hollywood glitz can be incredibly seductive.
Ron and his hapless chums should be worrying about the mindless junk that is spewed forth, on a depressingly regular basis, rather than the occasional, or even the frequent use of profanity.
People who complain about swearing can go fuck themselves, it's all just ridiculous pompous posturing anyway..
As if one is too just too precious to countenance such vulgarity in their presence..
What a joke...
Just check out some of their most recent attempts at desecration, sorry, I meant debate
Yet more utterly preposterous claims of photo alteration..John Butler is arch complainer numero uno, he uses the rules as a ruse to allow him to keep propagating his ignorant ramblings. Fundamentally he's an ignorant arsehole, another one who is way too stupid to realise just how stupid he is. His mere presence is an embarrassment. He's not there for debate, or to learn, or deepen his knowledge, because he already knows everything. His ridiculous charade is a profanation of the very notion of research. An uneducated buffoon spreading a load of noxious bilge, then running off to complain like a little bitch when someone tries to inject some reality, and expose his delirious babbling, for the anti intellectual atrocity it is.
An apparent attempt at reviving the even more preposterous ( it is a close fucking call) Mortal Error/ Hickey Done Shot JFK by accident " theory"( long championed by stalwart alterationist and all round conspiracy fantasist, par excellence, the one and only Dr Raul Pigby PhD( Oxon) Tripos ( Cantab))
Initially I thought it was some sort of wind up, but no, once the eminence grise ( not to be confused with Greg Burnham, the eminent grease, and peddler of luxury snake oil remedies, to cure all assassination related maladies, wannabe buy a copy of the " other film"?) M Speer, Milice Commandant , descended from his Olympian sized perch of self regard , being ever so serious , and dispensing wisdom and profundity as if he was fucking King Solomon reincarnated , I realised it was just more of the meaningless fluff than passes for debate...
Worse of all the usual suspects queued up to do their absolute damndest to 13 inch headify Prayerman...
Pete Mellor must have an undiagnosed case of Doorway schizophrenia!! Or maybe doorways just make the poor old soul see double..
After all he's still listed among the " Senior Members " of the OIC,
I know this conspiracy business can get a tad confusing at times, but make up your mind Pete!!
Was Oswald really " Oswald " plus Billy Lovelady's forehead ( HARVEY facemasks optional) or was he a 300lb flat chested grey haired woman with a giant handbag?
Ralph Cinque is toxic, the font of some of the most pungent disinformation, not to mention a brazen con man, profiting from the vulnerable and the insecure. Forget profane language, Cinque and all he represents profane against common humanity. An utterly vile piece of shit. Anyone , no matter how remotely or tangentially associated with him has no place in any company.
Mellors mere presence is one of the reasons why id never fucking join that forum. I wouldn't want to be associated with anyone however remotely connected to Ralph Cinque.
As for Ron Bulman? One of the Swinging Somnambulist Twins? ( he'll bore you to sleep even when you're already sleeping! Yes , folks he's THAT boring)without doubt one of the most boring, least insightful poster on any forum ( including the now defunct Der Forum, the apparently defunct Deep FooFoo and Stinky Mac's Pissarium, that just acts as it was defunct...280 pages plus of Dead Oswald on Tour anyone?)
Talk about dead fish going with the flow!
Vinny was absolutely spot on. Their priorities and sense of perspective is badly askew
As long as you say please and thank you, and you make sure you keep your pinky raised , when sipping your Esrl Grey, oh yes, and as long as you cut the crusts off your cucumber sandwiches , you are welcome to spread the most egregious misinformation , or the most absurd fantasies .
The place has practically been transformed into a de facto ancestral temple, where the shades of the glorious past are worshipped.
With an unthinking and unquestioning zeal.
However, in this particular instance it's more a question of Shitto, rather than Shinto..
Although can you imagine Paul Trejo, the red shirted samurai, attempting to commit seppuku with the oxidized remains of the 35 inch copper plated dildo he and Ron Lewis stole ( amongst other less mentionable items) from the grave of ex General Walker?
" Jason, are you quite sure if ( and only if) I shove it up here I'll die? It actually tickles quite a bit, in fact it reminds me of the time we spent 3 whole weeks researching the state of public urinals in Dallas "
Of course the so called " Golden Age " they hold is such rigid dogmatic esteem, was in reality anything but golden..
Fair enough not everyone can be cutting edge A list researchers or genius detectives, and everyone is entitled to their opinions , but at the very least I think a serious effort should be made to ensure some of the most outre gibberish doesn't go unchallenged.
Thankfully Jeremy B, Jonathan and RCD can invariably be relied upon to puncture the most gaseous balloons, before they even get the chance to leave terra firma, but still...
Something is very wrong with a so called debate forum, or any sort of forum for, that puts pedantry before progress.
On the contrary, as if attempting to live out all reactionaries wettest dreams, they seem determined to make a fetish out of regression. The odd fond backward glance us all very well, in fact sharing forum space with the likes of Butler its probably advisable , but these clods seem determined to ensure if any movement at all is to be made, its going to be in reverse..
Look at what they're attempting to do with Prayerman!! Intentionally or not , they miss the entire point, choosing instead to turn the " debate " into lugubrious display of hot air ballet...waft after waft of mindless ephemera pirouetting languidly through the fetid air, as Ron and his chums down in the peanut gallery ooh and ash in paroxsyms of giddy rapture..
In such a controversial, highly polarised ( and politicised) subject mis and disinformation spreads like cancer. Anyone who seriously cares about this case should always try to counter bullshit, ensuring it doesn't spread..
As we've all seen some bullshit, especially when its been sprinkled with a little Hollywood glitz can be incredibly seductive.
Ron and his hapless chums should be worrying about the mindless junk that is spewed forth, on a depressingly regular basis, rather than the occasional, or even the frequent use of profanity.
People who complain about swearing can go fuck themselves, it's all just ridiculous pompous posturing anyway..
As if one is too just too precious to countenance such vulgarity in their presence..
What a joke...
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