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The Fritz Prisoner Transfer Plan
Wed 13 Mar 2013, 5:33 pm
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"I instructed James R Leavelle to handcuff his left hand to the prisoner's right hand. The prisoner was already handcuffed. I instructed LC Graves to walk to his left and LD Montgomery directly behind him, and I told them I would walk directly in front of the prisoner out of the door to the car."
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/06/0652-002.gif
If Fritz does not break formation, Oswald probably makes it to trial.
"I instructed James R Leavelle to handcuff his left hand to the prisoner's right hand. The prisoner was already handcuffed. I instructed LC Graves to walk to his left and LD Montgomery directly behind him, and I told them I would walk directly in front of the prisoner out of the door to the car."
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/06/0652-002.gif
If Fritz does not break formation, Oswald probably makes it to trial.
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Re: The Fritz Prisoner Transfer Plan
Wed 24 Apr 2019, 11:26 am
I got that feeling, and Talbert was no help saying the added buzzer (external ringer) noise could be heard around the neighborhood (almost) it is so loud......
Even Rose Mary Woods could see the futility in leaving the reciever off.
Ed
Even Rose Mary Woods could see the futility in leaving the reciever off.
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Re: The Fritz Prisoner Transfer Plan
Thu 02 May 2019, 9:15 pm
Another old news article mentioning Fritz.
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Re: The Fritz Prisoner Transfer Plan
Thu 02 May 2019, 9:16 pm
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Re: The Fritz Prisoner Transfer Plan
Fri 03 May 2019, 8:27 pm
Oh snap.
The girls granny died too.
Walker was screwed blue and tattooed once this story was published.
Thanks Vinny
Ed
The girls granny died too.
Walker was screwed blue and tattooed once this story was published.
Thanks Vinny
Ed
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Re: The Fritz Prisoner Transfer Plan
Fri 03 May 2019, 8:35 pm
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Re: The Fritz Prisoner Transfer Plan
Fri 03 May 2019, 8:40 pm
Gave up a future in mule trading to be a historic ass.
Mahalo Vin,
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Mahalo Vin,
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Re: The Fritz Prisoner Transfer Plan
Fri 03 May 2019, 8:48 pm
Ha Ha.
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Re: The Fritz Prisoner Transfer Plan
Mon 12 Aug 2019, 11:16 am
Credit Bart Kamp.
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Re: The Fritz Prisoner Transfer Plan
Thu 15 Aug 2019, 9:55 am
The Fritz Prisoner Transfer Plan
"Okay boys, now remember, nobody opens fire until I am clear the hell away, got it? And if you fire a few seconds too soon, it will make me look like I knew it was coming all along, as such, I won't be able to blame that on my bad hearing if you guys screw this timing up ya hear? Now let's go cinch this case up"
"Okay boys, now remember, nobody opens fire until I am clear the hell away, got it? And if you fire a few seconds too soon, it will make me look like I knew it was coming all along, as such, I won't be able to blame that on my bad hearing if you guys screw this timing up ya hear? Now let's go cinch this case up"
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Re: The Fritz Prisoner Transfer Plan
Sat 25 Jan 2020, 9:54 pm
Fritz's secretary is still alive. I wonder if she might have any information about Fritz and his methods.
https://www.cbs19.tv/article/news/104-year-old-firecracker-keeps-it-real-at-lindale-assisted-living-community/501-9484eb30-5149-4671-bb5b-f687aaef91e4
Not far behind, is 101-year-old Peytie Rattan.
Her family said she happened to be on scene when JFK was assassinated in 1963. She worked as secretary to the lead investigator on the case, Captain Will Fritz of the Homicide and Robbery Bureau in Dallas.
https://www.cbs19.tv/article/news/104-year-old-firecracker-keeps-it-real-at-lindale-assisted-living-community/501-9484eb30-5149-4671-bb5b-f687aaef91e4
Not far behind, is 101-year-old Peytie Rattan.
Her family said she happened to be on scene when JFK was assassinated in 1963. She worked as secretary to the lead investigator on the case, Captain Will Fritz of the Homicide and Robbery Bureau in Dallas.
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Re: The Fritz Prisoner Transfer Plan
Sun 26 Jan 2020, 1:22 am
Great find Vinny
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Re: The Fritz Prisoner Transfer Plan
Sun 26 Jan 2020, 11:08 am
Oh I wonder if she still has s harp mind, the stories she could tell. Thanks for sharing VinnyVinny wrote:Fritz's secretary is still alive. I wonder if she might have any information about Fritz and his methods.
https://www.cbs19.tv/article/news/104-year-old-firecracker-keeps-it-real-at-lindale-assisted-living-community/501-9484eb30-5149-4671-bb5b-f687aaef91e4
Not far behind, is 101-year-old Peytie Rattan.
Her family said she happened to be on scene when JFK was assassinated in 1963. She worked as secretary to the lead investigator on the case, Captain Will Fritz of the Homicide and Robbery Bureau in Dallas.
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Re: The Fritz Prisoner Transfer Plan
Sun 26 Jan 2020, 4:04 pm
Thanks Bart and Mick.
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Re: The Fritz Prisoner Transfer Plan
Mon 27 Jan 2020, 4:04 pm
The old coot and DA knew the outcome would be in the basement, and instead of armored truck or decoy cop cars, that Ozzie would Transit by Ambulance and Fritz's 98% clearance rate wasn't in danger.
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Re: The Fritz Prisoner Transfer Plan
Mon 27 Jan 2020, 5:11 pm
It would be laughable if it wasn't so serious.
Lordy, they had death threats against him overnight. You're right Ed, Fritz was in charge he knew the score, Billie boy A was probably watchin' from the stalls somewhere - just to make sure. The armored truck the decoy you're shittin' me right? I know you're not!
Fritz made sure Oswald died it's there on the film and the photographs for everyone to see.
Lordy, they had death threats against him overnight. You're right Ed, Fritz was in charge he knew the score, Billie boy A was probably watchin' from the stalls somewhere - just to make sure. The armored truck the decoy you're shittin' me right? I know you're not!
Fritz made sure Oswald died it's there on the film and the photographs for everyone to see.
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Re: The Fritz Prisoner Transfer Plan
Sun 19 Jul 2020, 7:44 pm
An article about a 1943 murder investigated by Fritz.
http://unknownmisandry.blogspot.com/2011/08/he-wont-get-them-mary-fraileys-strategy.html
http://unknownmisandry.blogspot.com/2011/08/he-wont-get-them-mary-fraileys-strategy.html
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Sun 19 Jul 2020, 7:50 pm
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Re: The Fritz Prisoner Transfer Plan
Thu 23 Jul 2020, 3:14 am
Who's the "big-eared troll over on the EF?"
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Re: The Fritz Prisoner Transfer Plan
Mon 07 Sep 2020, 2:19 pm
Vinny wrote:Fritz's secretary is still alive. I wonder if she might have any information about Fritz and his methods.
https://www.cbs19.tv/article/news/104-year-old-firecracker-keeps-it-real-at-lindale-assisted-living-community/501-9484eb30-5149-4671-bb5b-f687aaef91e4
Not far behind, is 101-year-old Peytie Rattan.
Her family said she happened to be on scene when JFK was assassinated in 1963. She worked as secretary to the lead investigator on the case, Captain Will Fritz of the Homicide and Robbery Bureau in Dallas.
I wonder if she might have any info about Fritz's methods that were not known to the public.
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Re: The Fritz Prisoner Transfer Plan
Tue 08 Sep 2020, 12:50 pm
'Tell the truth and if you can't tell the truth, maybe you'd keep your mouth shut."
Say no more.
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Re: The Fritz Prisoner Transfer Plan
Tue 09 Feb 2021, 3:51 am
Jake_Sykes wrote:Travis Kirk ran for County Criminal Court Judge twice. Once in '46 and again in '58. Here are newspaper accounts:
Note above that Henry Wade was also running per this June 26, 1946 announcement in The Mesquite Mesquiter newspaper.
This ran repeatedly in a number of different papers over the course of that summer:
On the Ides of March the Mesquiter spelled out the candidate's platform:
He ran on wanting to administer laws fairly without discrimination as to race, color, or creed. Not one of the good ol' boys was he. Yet he was a Mason. Interesting person.
Henry Wade again in the above June 28, 1946 Mesquiter article.
Below is from the '58 campaign. He looks kind of swarthy. Does not look like your typical Dallas politician the way the other guy does. Apparently he didn't win his elections either. Probably too honest and fair.
Gotta believe that letter Lance posted on EF was typed while drunk, even if it's authentic at all. He did write that he had had drinks that day. I consider him to be totally credible in his statements included in the FBI report posted by Barto. Great find by Barto.
Here is another be it incomplete FBI doc by Travis Kirk.
https://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh26/pdf/WH26_CE_3006.pdf
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Re: The Fritz Prisoner Transfer Plan
Tue 09 Feb 2021, 5:15 am
Vinny wrote:Fritz's secretary is still alive. I wonder if she might have any information about Fritz and his methods.
https://www.cbs19.tv/article/news/104-year-old-firecracker-keeps-it-real-at-lindale-assisted-living-community/501-9484eb30-5149-4671-bb5b-f687aaef91e4
Not far behind, is 101-year-old Peytie Rattan.
Her family said she happened to be on scene when JFK was assassinated in 1963. She worked as secretary to the lead investigator on the case, Captain Will Fritz of the Homicide and Robbery Bureau in Dallas.
Vinny, I have just found out that Mary Rattan died four days after your post.
https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/arlington-tx/mary-rattan-9020725
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Re: The Fritz Prisoner Transfer Plan
Tue 09 Feb 2021, 1:30 pm
Thanks Bart. May She Rest In Peace.
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Re: The Fritz Prisoner Transfer Plan
Thu 24 Jun 2021, 9:08 pm
DETECTIVE IN DEATH OF KENNEDY RETIRES
https://www.nytimes.com/1970/03/01/archives/detective-in-death-of-kennedy-retires.html
DALLAS Feb. 28—Capt. Will Fritz, the Dallas detective who headed the investigation of the assassination of President Kennedy in 1963, has retired after being forced out as head of the homicide and robbery bureau last year.
Captain Fritz, now in his seventies, was the chief investigator in the Kennedy assassination and the slaying of the President's killer, Lee Harvey Oswald, by Jack Ruby.
The detective; who hunted such criminals as Bonnie Parket and Clyde Barrow for ‘,nearly half a century; was named night commander of the criminal investigation division, a position with less responsibility last November but never took ‘command. He retired Friday.
Over the years he became legend In Southwestern police circles and was widely respected as a tough law officer A dead shot with any firearm, he often shot it out with criminals.
He indicated he would prob ably not re‐enter law enforcement work.
https://www.nytimes.com/1970/03/01/archives/detective-in-death-of-kennedy-retires.html
DALLAS Feb. 28—Capt. Will Fritz, the Dallas detective who headed the investigation of the assassination of President Kennedy in 1963, has retired after being forced out as head of the homicide and robbery bureau last year.
Captain Fritz, now in his seventies, was the chief investigator in the Kennedy assassination and the slaying of the President's killer, Lee Harvey Oswald, by Jack Ruby.
The detective; who hunted such criminals as Bonnie Parket and Clyde Barrow for ‘,nearly half a century; was named night commander of the criminal investigation division, a position with less responsibility last November but never took ‘command. He retired Friday.
Over the years he became legend In Southwestern police circles and was widely respected as a tough law officer A dead shot with any firearm, he often shot it out with criminals.
He indicated he would prob ably not re‐enter law enforcement work.
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Re: The Fritz Prisoner Transfer Plan
Sun 18 Jul 2021, 3:37 pm
Old mule got put out to pasture. 98% clearance rate was becoming a liability or else they would have cloned Will Fritz or at least cryogenically froze his head.
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