Random Thoughts

I’ve been listening to the podcast “Solving JFK” with host Matt Crumpton. He tries to maintain a balanced look, but sees a lot of problems with the Warren Report.

He quotes from Vincent Bugliosi’s occasionally, and I am surprised that someone who seems to be well-regarded resorted so often to question begging. “It doesn’t matter how impossible it seems for Oswald to reach the place where Tippitt was killed, because we just know that Oswald killed Tippitt, so we know he got there in the time allotted somehow.

Oswald told the press, “I’m just a patsy!”

Who talks like that?

I would think a normal person would say something like, “I didn’t do it!” or “I’m being framed!”

Oswald’s “patsy” comment, in my opinion marks him as someone who hung around spies.

cavalier973 wrote:Oswald told the press, “I’m just a patsy!”

Who talks like that?

I would think a normal person would say something like, “I didn’t do it!” or “I’m being framed!”

Oswald’s “patsy” comment, in my opinion marks him as someone who hung around spies.

It is in line with my theory that he had ASD.

From Integrityinc.org

Linguistic Oddities

While children on the low-functioning level of autism usually struggle with holding conversations and building vocabulary, their counterparts on the high-functioning end of the ASD spectrum often speak much earlier and display an impressive grasp of vocabulary.

However, they often find conversations with their peers boring or hard to follow. They can come off as eccentric–their diverse vocabularies, interruptions, and focus on specific topics makes for a different kind of conversation than people are used to.

We also have him using "vestibule" instead of "lobby" and referring to Houston as "Old Mexico".

The etymology of the term "patsy" is worth noting because there are three possibilities.

1. Derived from the name Patrick and became a term for low-class Irish immigrants from bog towns. Especially applied to those just arrived off the boats... poorly educated and naïve - also known as a Bogtrotter.

2. Derived from the Italian pazzo, meaning madman, or the word paccio meaning fool.

3. (the one I believe most likely), It derived from a stock character in vaudeville skits from the late 19th century known as Patsy Bolivar. Patsy would be blamed for anything and everything that goes pear-shaped. 

As time went on, it became used outside of vaudeville and the meaning grew and changed to what we now understand it to mean. 

Those who insist (as I have often seen) that it a term only used to put all the blame on one person from within a criminal gang, are just giving the word the meaning they need to prop up pet theories.  That may well be an appropriate use of the term, but it far from the exclusive use of it.

Well, he did keep saying he “needed legal assistance” and “legal representation”, instead of “I need a lawyer”. I can see what you’re saying.

What is the probability of there being an Oswald impersonator? This Mike Crumpton fellow has mentioned it several times, based on different witnesses’ testimonies.

cavalier973 wrote:Well, he did keep saying he “needed legal assistance” and “legal representation”, instead of “I need a lawyer”. I can see what you’re saying.

What is the probability of there being an Oswald impersonator? This Mike Crumpton fellow has mentioned it several times, based on different witnesses’ testimonies.

It's a popular theory that has several variations. 

But they all have a common trait. They all rely upon witness statements of seeing someone they believed was Oswald, or who they recalled as giving the name Oswald.

But big cases always attract false sightings from the well-meaning or psychiatrically unwell sections of society. And cases did not get bigger than this.

Crumption, being a lawyer should be well aware of the issue.

Without going into specifics,

One case where it was alleged the name Oswald was given means nothing since the description was out and no first name was given. Not like Lee was the only Oswald in the world.

One case where the name Oswald was used really was him, not a double or misidentification.

Most of the Dallas ones - especially having him associating with Ruby, were actually of Crafard and were not deliberate impersonations

Another in that category was of Herbert Lee. Again, not deliberate.

The Odio incident was her memory mixing up two names - Leon and Osvaldo Pino Pino. 

The one area of concern remains Mexico - and that is solved except to determine if the man on the bus was indeed deliberately representing himself as Lee.

Greg,
Sorry if I’m late to the party so to speak but is it your contention that Oswald did go to Mexico City or perhaps if he did go had a double as well (unknown to him) or did he not go at all? I have no firm belief one way or another so would be curious your take. Also, you’re of the belief that Oswald never appeared at Odio’s doorstep but was instead mistaken identity on her part? Thanks in advance.

stereolab wrote:Greg,
Sorry if I’m late to the party so to speak but is it your contention that Oswald did go to Mexico City or perhaps if he did go had a double as well (unknown to him) or did he not go at all? I have no firm belief one way or another so would be curious your take. Also, you’re of the belief that Oswald never appeared at Odio’s doorstep but was instead mistaken identity on her part? Thanks in advance.

100% certain LHO was not on the bus they said he was on which means someone either deliberately impersonated him or the witnesses lied, perhaps under coercion.  have waivered between those two positions, but the likely truth is slowly coming into focus - and to slip into overused terms, it really is a can of worms. Much more than anyone has ever imagined. 
https://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t1452-why-the-one-and-only-lee-oswald-looked-different-on-his-return-from-the-su?

I am 95% sure he never went to Mexico at all but was job hunting in Houston just as he told Marina and Ruth he would be. 
https://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t6-the-houston-problem-pt-1
https://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t7-the-houston-problem-pt-2

I believe it was someone who really was a Leon. If you are going to impersonate someone, you don't use a similar but different name, nor appear with the beginnings of a beard when the person you're supposed to be, is nearly always clean-shaven,

One of the earliest suspects as one of the Latinos was an Osvaldo Pino Pino. I think given her psychological fragility, when she saw the assassination suspect was Lee Oswald, she could not help putting the names Leon and Osvaldo together. I strongly suspect that this was encouraged by her sponsor and "controller" Lucile Connell.
https://gregrparker.com/sylvia-odio-lucille-connell-grand-hysteria-and-leon-2/

The Odio solution is conjecture but it does make sense of all of the evidence as far as I can tell.

Interesting takes. I personally concur Oswald wasn’t in Mexico City. The fact that the video evidence of those few days is “missing” adds to the skepticism. Seemingly an effort to further his legend leading up to Dealey Plaza. I’ve never read a take about Odio like that but it’s easy to see it’s veracity. Thanks for info.