Another bogus phone call?
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Robert Charles-Dunne
Hasan Yusuf
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Another bogus phone call?
Sat 12 Oct 2013, 5:36 am
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=10406&relPageId=444
Does anyone here know of any viable assassination suspects from Indiana? Does anyone here also know of any suspect who fits the description of the man allegedly placing the phone call to Indiana?
Does anyone here know of any viable assassination suspects from Indiana? Does anyone here also know of any suspect who fits the description of the man allegedly placing the phone call to Indiana?
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Re: Another bogus phone call?
Sun 13 Oct 2013, 12:28 am
Hasan:
The following may be of interest:
On November 25, 1963, Harry L. Power, an Army veteran and one-time resident of San Antonio, inexplicably left a 6.5 Mannlicher-Carcano in the Terre Haute House Hotel in Terre Haute, Indiana. When Terre Haute officials investigated the matter they found no fingerprints on the rifle and no explanation as to why it was abandoned. They also thought that the name of "Harry Power" may have been an alias. Terre Haute Police Chief Frank Riddle told an AP reporter that all the information that his office had collected was turned over to the Warren Commission when Secret Service Agents confiscated the rifle. Riddle also claimed that Power had no criminal record and was believed to be a member of the Young Communist League. A National Archives document about the affair was declassified in 1970. Research Dick Russell reported that the file reports that Power had been investigated in connection with the shooting attempt on General Walker in Dallas, a shooting that has been linked to Oswald and his Mannlicher-Carcano. Other files associated with the Power rifle claim that it was a 7.65 Mauser. [15] CIA agent Richard Nagell told Garrison investigators in 1967 that Power was a Maoist or Trotskyite and "had known Lee Harvey Oswald and had been seen with him ..." [16]
http://www.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/11th_issue/guns_dp.html
The following may be of interest:
On November 25, 1963, Harry L. Power, an Army veteran and one-time resident of San Antonio, inexplicably left a 6.5 Mannlicher-Carcano in the Terre Haute House Hotel in Terre Haute, Indiana. When Terre Haute officials investigated the matter they found no fingerprints on the rifle and no explanation as to why it was abandoned. They also thought that the name of "Harry Power" may have been an alias. Terre Haute Police Chief Frank Riddle told an AP reporter that all the information that his office had collected was turned over to the Warren Commission when Secret Service Agents confiscated the rifle. Riddle also claimed that Power had no criminal record and was believed to be a member of the Young Communist League. A National Archives document about the affair was declassified in 1970. Research Dick Russell reported that the file reports that Power had been investigated in connection with the shooting attempt on General Walker in Dallas, a shooting that has been linked to Oswald and his Mannlicher-Carcano. Other files associated with the Power rifle claim that it was a 7.65 Mauser. [15] CIA agent Richard Nagell told Garrison investigators in 1967 that Power was a Maoist or Trotskyite and "had known Lee Harvey Oswald and had been seen with him ..." [16]
http://www.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/11th_issue/guns_dp.html
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Re: Another bogus phone call?
Sun 13 Oct 2013, 12:40 am
Thanks, Robert. I was trying to run down that information, but could not recall where I had read it. Turns out I had the Craig article but it was filed in a place I didn't look ...
Re: Another bogus phone call?
Sun 13 Oct 2013, 6:09 am
Thanks, Robert. Very interesting indeed.Robert Charles-Dunne wrote:Hasan:
The following may be of interest:
On November 25, 1963, Harry L. Power, an Army veteran and one-time resident of San Antonio, inexplicably left a 6.5 Mannlicher-Carcano in the Terre Haute House Hotel in Terre Haute, Indiana. When Terre Haute officials investigated the matter they found no fingerprints on the rifle and no explanation as to why it was abandoned. They also thought that the name of "Harry Power" may have been an alias. Terre Haute Police Chief Frank Riddle told an AP reporter that all the information that his office had collected was turned over to the Warren Commission when Secret Service Agents confiscated the rifle. Riddle also claimed that Power had no criminal record and was believed to be a member of the Young Communist League. A National Archives document about the affair was declassified in 1970. Research Dick Russell reported that the file reports that Power had been investigated in connection with the shooting attempt on General Walker in Dallas, a shooting that has been linked to Oswald and his Mannlicher-Carcano. Other files associated with the Power rifle claim that it was a 7.65 Mauser. [15] CIA agent Richard Nagell told Garrison investigators in 1967 that Power was a Maoist or Trotskyite and "had known Lee Harvey Oswald and had been seen with him ..." [16]
http://www.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/11th_issue/guns_dp.html
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Re: Another bogus phone call?
Sun 13 Oct 2013, 10:03 am
Harry Power also gets several mentions in the first edition of Dick Russell's "The Man Who Knew Too Much."Albert Rossi wrote:Thanks, Robert. I was trying to run down that information, but could not recall where I had read it. Turns out I had the Craig article but it was filed in a place I didn't look ...
The Power incident alone raises substantial questions. imho
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Re: Another bogus phone call?
Tue 15 Oct 2013, 10:17 am
So RObert, what do you make of this?
Do you have any kind of gestalt ideas about it, like how it fits in or if its fits in somehow?
Do you have any kind of gestalt ideas about it, like how it fits in or if its fits in somehow?
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Re: Another bogus phone call?
Tue 15 Oct 2013, 12:45 pm
Does anyone here know of any viable assassination suspects from Indiana?
Robert Bakey lives in Indiana, he's a professor at Notre Dame. )
Robert Bakey lives in Indiana, he's a professor at Notre Dame. )
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Re: Another bogus phone call?
Tue 15 Oct 2013, 3:32 pm
If you read the lower part of the page at this link, you'll know almost everything I know about
Harry L. Power, the man who checked into a Terra Haute hotel on 25 November with a Mauzer 7.65 and no luggage. A man (Roger Droach or Drosch) questioned by San Antonio police claimed Power was a top marksman who practiced at a range two to three times per week,:
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=48768&relPageId=5
His name seems to be Harry Leslie Power, he is 70, lives in Elko, NV or in Idaho and married his wife named Lisa Dawn West in Clark County, Nevada in 1990. He was an employee of several painting contractors and he moved around a lot, from Fort Worth to Phoenix. Frank Riddle, Terra Haute PD Chief is described in the linked page, writing a letter to Earl Warren about Power in April, 1964.
Harry L. Power, the man who checked into a Terra Haute hotel on 25 November with a Mauzer 7.65 and no luggage. A man (Roger Droach or Drosch) questioned by San Antonio police claimed Power was a top marksman who practiced at a range two to three times per week,:
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=48768&relPageId=5
His name seems to be Harry Leslie Power, he is 70, lives in Elko, NV or in Idaho and married his wife named Lisa Dawn West in Clark County, Nevada in 1990. He was an employee of several painting contractors and he moved around a lot, from Fort Worth to Phoenix. Frank Riddle, Terra Haute PD Chief is described in the linked page, writing a letter to Earl Warren about Power in April, 1964.
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Re: Another bogus phone call?
Wed 16 Oct 2013, 2:34 am
Hi Jim:James DiEugenio wrote:So RObert, what do you make of this?
Do you have any kind of gestalt ideas about it, like how it fits in or if its fits in somehow?
Anything I say on this topic is obviously my own speculation. Much is owed, however, to Canadian researcher Sheldon Inkol - cited by Tom - who wrote the Third Decade piece and gathered so much disparate information in a single place.
Irrespective of whether the man with the rifle was Power or Glenn, the rifle left behind was, depending on the information’s source, either a 6.5 Mannlicher Carcano or a 7.65 German Mauser. Contrary to Warrenatti wisdom, I strongly assert one of each was discovered at the TSBD, which would merely be coincidental vis a vis the abandoned rifle.
And it would remain coincidental were it not for the similarities with Oswald found in the backgrounds of both Power and Glenn.
I have always thought Richard Case Nagell to be an honest broker, and if he asserted that “Power” and Oswald knew each other, and that “Power” was a radical leftist (whether Maoist or Trotskyite), the likelihood of mere “coincidence” diminishes greatly.
If Nagell is correct that “Power” and Oswald not only knew each other, but had been seen together, it may have been a quite simple matter to demonstrate that connection after the assassination, had the investigators been so inclined. My suspicion is that this connection between the two men was created in advance to be used, post-assassination, as additional proof of a Communist conspiracy. The assertion would have been difficult to disprove if both Oswald and Power had vanished soon after the assassination.
Pressure from the White House and lesser powers foreshortened interest in plumbing such a conspiracy. Under those circumstances, it is obvious why Chief Riddle and others may have wished to probe this matter with minimal chance of publicity.
In the same way that Oswald seems to have been the victim of imposture in Mexico City, “Power” may likewise have been impersonated, perhaps by more than one party, given the three mutually exclusive physical descriptions of him in Inkol’s piece.
I would note that one description of “Power” has him in his early 20s, 5'10", 180 pounds, good looking with blonde hair that had a curl in it.
I wonder how that comports with the unidentified fellow, photographed in Mexico City as a possible “blonde Oswald” candidate. And how this may intersect with John Glenn’s attempts to reach Cuba via Mexico City, as did Oswald.
(Edit: I tried posting an image without success, but it can be seen at the url below, courtesy of Zach Robertson, I believe.)
https://2img.net/h/s3.postimg.cc/x6l9rjhe/mex_63_22.jpg
Re: Another bogus phone call?
Wed 16 Oct 2013, 5:47 am
https://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t436-posting-tipsRobert Charles-Dunne wrote:
(Edit: I tried posting an image without success, but it can be seen at the url below, courtesy of Zach Robertson, I believe.)
https://2img.net/h/s3.postimg.cc/x6l9rjhe/mex_63_22.jpg
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Re: Another bogus phone call?
Wed 16 Oct 2013, 7:06 am
LOL I didn't realise he was a suspect.beowulf wrote:Does anyone here know of any viable assassination suspects from Indiana?
Robert Bakey lives in Indiana, he's a professor at Notre Dame. )
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Re: Another bogus phone call?
Wed 16 Oct 2013, 7:16 am
Ooooh, I just realized from the wording that I could qualify, too. I'm "from Indiana" (moved there in 1961 -- how's that for scary? ) and my immediate family still lives there.
Never owned an M-C or Mauser, though. And I was only 6 at the time we moved. Don't think I knew who Mao or Trotsky were then, and they certainly weren't on the first-grade syllabus of the parochial school I attended.
Never owned an M-C or Mauser, though. And I was only 6 at the time we moved. Don't think I knew who Mao or Trotsky were then, and they certainly weren't on the first-grade syllabus of the parochial school I attended.
Re: Another bogus phone call?
Wed 16 Oct 2013, 8:56 am
Never owned a M-C or Mauser? Neither did Oswald. You're looking more guilty all the time. I'd advise you to say no more without counsel present.Albert Rossi wrote:Ooooh, I just realized from the wording that I could qualify, too. I'm "from Indiana" (moved there in 1961 -- how's that for scary? ) and my immediate family still lives there.
Never owned an M-C or Mauser, though. And I was only 6 at the time we moved. Don't think I knew who Mao or Trotsky were then, and they certainly weren't on the first-grade syllabus of the parochial school I attended.
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Re: Another bogus phone call?
Wed 16 Oct 2013, 3:14 pm
Robert Bakey lives in Indiana, he's a professor at Notre Dame. )
LOL I didn't realise he was a suspect.
Its the person you least suspect, see. Ha ha, actually its because he's literally the only person I know of in Indiana with any connection to the case.
LOL I didn't realise he was a suspect.
Its the person you least suspect, see. Ha ha, actually its because he's literally the only person I know of in Indiana with any connection to the case.
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