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Tue 25 Feb 2014, 7:21 am
On November 24, 1963, detective Jim Leavelle received information about a man named Billy Briggs Stewart, who was allegedly a close associate of Jack Ruby. Leavelle writes that if Stewart was brought in for questioning; "...he might be able to shed a lot of light as to the [blank] Of Jack Ruby."


http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/02/0234-001.gif (Dallas municipal archives, Box 1, Folder 7, Item 71).


I've got no idea what word(s) was left out, but I surmise that it might have been "motive" (for killing Oswald) or perhaps "mental/emotional state". Can anyone shed some light on who Billy Briggs Stewart was, and what the missing word(s) was? I haven't been able to find any other information on this guy.
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Tue 25 Feb 2014, 7:24 am
If the missing word was indeed motive, I'm at a loss right now to explain why it was left out of Leavelle's memorandum.
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Tue 25 Feb 2014, 8:22 am
According to the referenced letter, Billy Briggs Stewart was Jack Ruby's band leader for several years. A word search through Walt Brown's Master Chronology turned up nothing. The only thing I found on Google was a Billy Briggs Stewart buried in Faulkenberry Cemetery, Groesbeck, Texas, about 100 miles south of Dallas:
Stewart, Billy Briggs, b. 1 Dec 1924, d. 25 Jan 2001, s/w Juanita Horton Stewart, Sec. M
 
http://www.interment.net/data/us/tx/limestone/faulkenberry/faulk_st.htm
It will probably take someone with strong genealogy search skills like a Tom Scully to investigate this guy further.
 
As far as the missing word(s), that's a big gap for a word like motive. The "of" before Jack Ruby is capitalized which is odd.
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Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:13 am
I find it a bit troubling that there is no sign of any follow up of this memo - nor any FBI interview of Stewart that I can find.

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Tue 25 Feb 2014, 6:22 pm
I agree Greg. However, it would definitely not be the first lead or witness they let slip away.
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Tue 25 Feb 2014, 7:56 pm
Carmine Savastano wrote:I agree Greg. However, it would definitely not be the first lead or witness they let slip away.
True Carmine. In fact, it would be a worthwhile project to make a list of all such leads dropped. Those would be the places to dig the deepest.

Here is another one I've written about before:

To: Chief Stevenson


Captain FritzSubject: Information on threats against President Kennedy The wife of Detective RE Abbott said that a former employee at Parkland Hospital was heard by Mrs Johnson on the admission desk and a orderly named HOSEY saying that President Kennedy would be killed. The former employee was a Cuban. 


His name can be furnished by Mr Morgan, who is Mrs Abbott's supervisor.


OA Jones Captain of Police


There are no signs I've found that this lead was ever followed. And it would have been very easy to do so at the time.

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Wed 26 Feb 2014, 7:10 am
Thanks for the comments, guys. I have also been unable to find any FBI interview with Stewart. Yeah, it's definitely odd that "Of" is capitalised, and I agree that the gap is too long for a word like motive to have been there on its own, but I think that whatever is missing could be potentially very important. I am currently busy working on an essay for CTKA.net to do more research on Stewart, so hopefully Tom Scully and others can jump in and dig up some more information on him.
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Wed 26 Feb 2014, 7:21 am
One of you surely must have thought of this already:


 mob connections
n Industrial Boul


?

 That's a bit suspect

Doesn't really explain the capitalized  "Of"  though...
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Wed 26 Feb 2014, 8:35 am
Albert Rossi wrote:One of you surely must have thought of this already:


 mob connections
n Industrial Boul


?

 That's a bit suspect

Doesn't really explain the capitalized  "Of"  though...
The guy was a country & western musician - which doesn't really go with "mob". I'm thinking "gambling connections" (which may or may not have mob connotations). Maybe someone can measure the gap and measure a few letters to get a rough estimate of how many letters/spaces fit.  

I think the cap on "Of" has to be put down to a typo.

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Wed 26 Feb 2014, 8:42 am
Greg

1.  I was being somewhat facetious.
2.  The point of using courier above was to show the exact number of missing spaces from the line below ("n Industrial Boul") which is 17.

I'm not even sure "mob" is 1963 parlance.  Laughing 
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Wed 26 Feb 2014, 8:53 am
Albert Rossi wrote:Greg

1.  I was being somewhat facetious.
2.  The point of using courier above was to show the exact number of missing spaces from the line below ("n Industrial Boul") which is 17.

I'm not even sure "mob" is 1963 parlance.  Laughing 
Okay. Morning here and I've already been up for hours without a coffee. That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.  What the?

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Wed 26 Feb 2014, 10:22 am
greg parker wrote:I think the cap on "Of" has to be put down to a typo.
I think when the gap was created, they redactor may have inadvertently removed the lowercase "o" in the process, and later it was replaced with a capital "O" as if it was the start of a new sentence. I can't imagine anyone hitting capital "O" when typing "of" in mid-sentence. But I quibble here.
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Wed 26 Feb 2014, 11:08 am
Stan Dane wrote:
greg parker wrote:I think the cap on "Of" has to be put down to a typo.
I think when the gap was created, they redactor may have inadvertently removed the lowercase "o" in the process, and later it was replaced with a capital "O" as if it was the start of a new sentence. I can't imagine anyone hitting capital "O" when typing "of" in mid-sentence. But I quibble here.
That's sounds reasonable, Stan. As a further example of my coffee-free thought processes, I was working on the possibility that the typist was thinking ahead to the capitalization of Ruby's name.

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Wed 26 Feb 2014, 3:56 pm
There is another version of this memo at:
[url=http://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth337977/m1/1/?q="billy briggs stewart"]http://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth337977/m1/1/?q=%22billy%20briggs%20stewart%22[/url]

In this version, the individual who typed the memo has provided an explanation (located at the bottom of the memo) for the missing spaces.

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Wed 26 Feb 2014, 5:34 pm
WM63 wrote:There is another version of this memo at:
[url=http://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth337977/m1/1/?q="billy briggs stewart"]http://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth337977/m1/1/?q=%22billy%20briggs%20stewart%22[/url][/url]

In this version, the individual who typed the memo has provided an explanation (located at the bottom of the memo) for the missing spaces.
Good pick up. That problem solved, but we still don't know what info he could have provided about Ruby.

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Wed 26 Feb 2014, 6:01 pm
Mr Parker,

Agreed. We still do not know what the two missing words were, and it does not appear that the DPD followed up with Billy Briggs Stewart or if they did, no reports were filed.

I would also like to take this opportunity to thank you for this forum, and wish you much success with your upcoming book.

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Wed 26 Feb 2014, 10:43 pm
WM63 wrote:Mr Parker,

Agreed. We still do not know what the two missing words were, and it does not appear that the DPD followed up with Billy Briggs Stewart or if they did, no reports were filed.

I would also like to take this opportunity to thank you for this forum, and wish you much success with your upcoming book.
Thank you on both counts, and again for jumping in. Unless you're more comfortable with "Mr", Greg is just fine.

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Thu 27 Feb 2014, 12:20 am
Is it solved?  Why 17 spaces for "two blanks"?  From shorthand, does one have an idea of how many characters the represented word is? I suppose one could argue that, excluding the word separation (3 spaces), we have 7 + 7, with 7 being just an arbitrary word size somewhat longer than average. 

Then there is the question of why the blank was not eventually filled in by consulting the author of the notes.

Or why there are two versions of this memo.


Oops ...sorry, I didn't notice the follow up discussion.  Sorry to repeat.
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Fri 28 Feb 2014, 3:36 pm
During the latter half of 1958, Billy Briggs Stewart and his wife moved from Oklahoma back to his home town of Groesbeck, Limestone County, TX, reportedly serving as Groesbeck's police chief, with no prior experience in that field. Billy was born in Groesbeck in 1921, Jack Todd in 1919.

Early in 1959, Billy resigned as chief, reportedly to devote himself to his local filling station business. Billy is credited as bass player on most of Hank Thompson's and the Brazos Boys recordings of the 1950's and early 1960's.:

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Sat 01 Mar 2014, 6:12 am
Billy "Round Boy" Stewart.  The stories those Brazos Boys must have heard over the years.  He's an interesting fellow, for sure.  Great digging.  Thanks !
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Sat 01 Mar 2014, 7:45 am
If the Billy Briggs Stewart buried in Faulkenberry Cemetery, Groesbeck, Limestone County, Texas is the same Billy Briggs Stewart who's the subject of this thread, then I wonder why the cemetery shows his year of birth as 1924 (1 Dec 1924) and Tom's research shows 1921. Not that it really matters a whit.
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Sat 01 Mar 2014, 7:54 am
Stan, I think I can explain it. Tom was relying on what the website says rather than what the gravestone says. If you look at the gravestone, part of the "4" has eroded away so that it looks like a "1". If you blow it up, it becomes obvious it is supposed to be a "4".

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=77208487


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Sat 01 Mar 2014, 9:30 am
Greg, you are correct, I relied on the dates displayed on the bottom of Mrs. Stewart's findagrave.com 2011 obit and on the text on Billy's findagrave.com page. That "4" is lightly air chiseled....the gravestone is only 13 years old, max.

I connected Stewart with Todd and the Walton Kristoffersen bookmaker from Teague, TX because Teague and Groesbeck are adjacent towns, the whole county has a current population of 23,000, and Groesbeck is a town of under 5,000 residents. Todd was reported in the 1951 conviction article to have recently been in Groesbeck. Todd's nephew Jerry recently was the defense lawyer of a bookmaker arrested in a Billion dollar internet gambling investigation.:

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/IRS-North-Texas-Gambling-Ring-Collected-1-Billion-in-One-Year-160435105.html
....Merkow did not answer his phone number listed in the court documents and his attorney, Jerry Biesel, did not return a message left at his Dallas office.


Detective describes undercover work in Dallas-area gambling scheme
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Aug 16, 2013 - Still, the longtime employee of the Plano Police Department wanted to settle one more wager. He called his bookie, Gregg Merkow, and asked ..

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James Robert Todd Jr. - Dignity Memorial
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    Mar 16, 2011 - Obituary for James Todd, Todd Jr., James Robert "Jack" James Robert "Jack" Todd Jr. stepped from this life March 14, 2011. Jack was born December 10, 1919 in Groesbeck, Texas. ...

The Mexia Daily News › 9 May 1951 › Page 1 - Newspapers.com
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‎Jack Todd Draws One-Year Sentence On Dynamite Count DALLAS — (UP) — Dapper Jack Todd, Dallas underworld explosive "expert," got a one- year prison sentence and a $1,000 fine yesterday for boarding an i airliner with nitroglycerine'in his pocket. A federal court jury took only 17 minutes to reach a guilty verdict «nd Judge R. Whitfield Davidson ordered the maximum penalty for the former Limestone county resident. Judge Davidson also denied appeal bond • because Todd's defense "warranted no appeal." Todd, a member of the late Lois Green's "band of 40 thieves," was arrested Jan. 19 as he boarded a New York-bound American Airlines plane. In his overcoat pocket police found" an. eight-inch stick .of jellied nitroglycerine, enough to "blow the plane to bite." Caps In Luggage In his luggage, which already had been placed about the plane, officers found three dynamite caps and 18 inches of fuse. Todd said he was taking the nitro to New York to a man called "Tex White" who he said had called him and said the New York police department needed the(Todd is reported to have visited Groesbeck recently, driving a new Lincoln sedan....

Lucille Biesel in the 1940 Census | Ancestry.com
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Household Members, Age. Head, Harold R Biesel, 34. Wife, Lucille Biesel, 30. Son, Robert Biesel, 6. Son, Jerry Biesel, 4 ...

In 1978, Jack Todd's attorney was his nephew, Jerry.

DEPOSITION OF J. R. TODD
http://jfkassassination.net/russ/m_j_russ/todd.htm
....MCDONALD: All right. My name is James McDonald. We are present in the Federal Courthouse in Dallas, Texas, to take the Deposition of James Robert Todd. Present this morning are Mr. Todd and his attorney Jerry Biesel.
Jul 11, 1978 - J. R. TODD was duly sworn and testified as follows: .... Are you the same Jack Todd', James Robert Todd, that was interviewed by the F.B.I. in ...

......Q. You are the sole proprietor?
A. My children and myself are, yes.
Q. And who are your children?
A. What does that got to do with this?
Q. Well, we're trying to get just a background and identifying information just for our complete understanding of"-
A. My oil company doesn't have anything to do with what we
A. re talking about.
Q. Well, it would just be helpful for us to know"-
MR. BIESEL: Counsel, I think this goes outside the purview of this investigation, and Mr. Todd doesn't feel like, you know, getting into his private life. He's volunteered to give any information he might have that would be relevant to this investigation, but
A. s to his private life he doesn't feel like any investigation of his private life is warranted.
MR. MCDONALD: All right. Well, we are not investigating his private life, but I will respect his wishes at this point.
Q. (Mr. McDonald) Your answer then to the question was that your children occupy some place of responsibility in your company, either partners or"-
A. Ownership.
Q. Ownership. Okay. And just a couple of more personal
Q. uestions, if I might. What's your date of birth?
A. December the tenth.
Q. Yes, what year?
A. 1919.
Q. Okay. And where were you born?
A. Groesbeck, Texas.
Q. And you are presently married?
A. Yes.
Q. And what is your wife's name?
A. Ann.
Q. Ann. Okay. Mr. Todd, as you know, you have voluntarily come here this morning to assist this committee in its investigation of the assassination of John F. Kennedy. and in that regard, we are going to be asking you some
Q. uestions that pertain to an individual by the name of Jack Ruby. One further identifying bit of information. Are you the same Jack Todd', James Robert Todd, that was interviewed by the F.B.I. in 1963 shortly after the assassination of John F. Kennedy?
A. No, sir.
Q. You are not the same one?
A. No, sir.
Q. Were you ever interviewed by the F.B.I. after the
A. ssassination?
A. Not to my knowledge.
Q. Not to your knowledge or not -- Did you ever live at 2438 Oats Drive?
A. I sure did.
Q. Okay. And you don't recall being interviewed?
A. NO, sir.
Q. How good is your memory?
A. Fairly good.
Q. All right. You don't recall being interviewed on
A. pproximately December sixteenth, 1963, by Agent Tom E. Chapoton, C-H-A-P-O-T-O-N?
A. In regards to what?
Q. In regards to Jack Ruby and the assassination of John F. Kennedy?
A. I don't remember, no.
Q. I will say this, we have a record that you were interview( on that day.
A. I have"-
Q. You don't recall?
A. No, sir.
Q. Okay.
MR. BIESEL: Now, as Mr. Todd's attorney, if you have a copy of that record here, 1 would like see it in order to have my client refresh his memory, because that's fifteen years ago, you know.
MR. MCDONALD: I understand. I am not liberty to give you a copy of it because it's part of the under documents that are not subject to disclosure pursuant to the Freedom of Information Act. It's still under an exception in the National Archives, but
A. ccording to the document that I am reading, it'5 an F.B.I. 302. I don't know if you are familiar with that term, it's an interview form of the F.B.I. You were interviewed on December' sixteenth, 1963, in DaLlas, the person interviewed was James Robert Todd at 2438 Oats Drive, Dallas, regarding a notation that was found in Jack Ruby's car that said, "Jack," and then a phone number, "DA8-26-35," which was your phone number at the time, that's how they came to you?
A. No, that wasn't my number.
Q. (Mr. McDonald) Let me just say this: This was the phone number and they at that time, fifteen years ago, traced it to you, and that's how the F.B.I. came to interview you?
A. Well, if he came to interview me, I don't remember it. and that telephone number is almost it, but that wasn't the right number.
Q. Was your number at that time?
A. Davis 8-2634. As best I recall it, it was Davis 8-2634.
Q. Okay. Well"-
A. 35 could have been something to Jack, I have no idea.
Q. Mr. Todd, at that time, fifteen years ago, this is the number they found and they traced it to you, and you were interviewed?
A. I don't remember. MR. MCDONALD: You can make a note also present during this Deposition is Committee Investigator
A. lbert Maxwell. Mr. Maxwell, we are in the process of trying to refresh Mr. Todd's memory. I am locking at an F.B.I. 302, you may help us, you have interviewed Mr. Todd before; is that correct?
MR. MAXWELL: Yes, uh-huh.
MR. MCDONALD: According to the interview, Mr. Todd was interviewed back in December Of 1963, and he was located because a number was found in Jack Ruby's car with the notation, "Jack, DA8-2635," and that's how the F.B.I. ultimately ended up talking to Mr. Todd. You're aware of those facts?
MR. MAXWELL: Yes.
MR. MCDONALD: Okay. Mr. Todd is having a problem remembering it.
THE WITNESS: I don't .. MR. BIESEL: Let me ask you a question, Counselor, let me interrupt you. You talk about these facts as if they're, you know, true. It's my understanding, though, that the only thing you have is no personal knowledge, you are looking at some report that purports to say that these facts are true, so let the record reflect that these statements that these are facts, that's just a supposition on your part, and you keep referring to these facts, those are just some facts that are reported on an instrument that you have that someone else quoted.
MR. MCDONALD: Let me say this: I started this whole line of questioning out merely as an identifying bit of information which Mr. Todd now has forgotten.
THE WITNESS: I don't recall.
Q. (Mr. McDonald) You don't recall ever being talked to by the F.B.I. after the assassination of President Kennedy? To my knowledge, this is the first time I have ever been
A. sked anything about it.
Q. Have you ever been talked to before, excluding Mr. Maxwell, regarding Jack Ruby by any official of the Federal Government?
A. I don't recall it, no.
Q. You don't recall. So, what you are saying is then after the -- You don't recall, or you were or you weren't, yes or no?
A. I don't recall.
MR. BIESEL: He says he doesn't recall it. His memory says that he was not, but, you know, it's fifteen years ago again, and, you know, it didn't have any significance if he was, I assume, is that true, Mr. Todd?
THE WITNESS: I don't recall anybody ever asking me about Jack Ruby.
Q. (Mr. McDonald) I am just saying that we deal with a lot of people involved with this case---
A. Yes.
Q. ---and I would say that 1 find it hard to believe that you don't remember that within two weeks after the assassination that an F.B.I. Agent -- I Can believe you might not remember the substance, but that an F.B.I. Agent came either to your business or home and interviewed you regarding Jack Ruby, the assassin of the assassin of the President?
MR. BIESEL: You see, Counsel, that's because you're assuming that that report is accurate.
MR. MCDONALD: Yes, I am assuming that it's accurate.
MR. BIESEL' Okay. Then let's assume this witness is under oath and just testified that he does not recall that, and does not believe that occurred, and let's assume that"-
MR. MCDONALD: I am assuming he's being evasive.
MR. BIESEL: Yes, you are assuming he's being evasive, and he's not being evasive. He's being as candid with you as he could possibly be, because it has no significance. What possible significance"-
MR. MCDONALD: That's for us to determine and not for Mr. Todd to determine. I wanted to just identify him as the same Mr. Todd, and we have reason to believe that we know that he is the same Mr. Todd that was interviewed by"-
MR. BIESEL: You do hot know that.
MR. MCDONALD: Yes, we do, Mr. Biesel.
MR. BIESEL: You don't know that at all. You have got a report that you're referring to there. He is Mr. Todd, and he lived on Oats Drive, he will admit that, but he does not recall a meeting with an F.B.I.
A. gent concerning the Ruby assassination of Oswald.
MR. MCDONALD: Okay. You made your point.
MR. DIESEL: Okay.
Q. (Mr. McDonald) Okay. Mr. Todd, have you ever heard of the Lois Green gang?
A. Yes, sir. ....

http://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/select-committee-report/part-1c.html
Report of the Select Committee on Assassinations of the U.S. House of Representatives
C. The Committee believes, on the basis of the evidence available to it, that President John F. Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy. The Committee is unable to identify the other gunman or the extent of the conspiracy.
Page 173......
In his testimony before the committee, Trafficante admitted participating in the unsuccessful CIA conspiracy to assassinate Castro, an admission indicating his willingness to participate in political murder. (303) Trafficante testified that he worked with the CIA out of a patriotic feeling for his country, an explanation the committee did not accept, at least not as his sole motivation. (304)

As noted, the committee established a possible connection between Trafficante and Jack Ruby in Cuba in 1959. (305) It determined there had been a close friendship between Ruby and Lewis McWillie, who, as a Havana gambler, worked in an area subject to the control of the Trafficante Mafia family. (306) Further, it assembled documentary evidence that Ruby made at least two, if not three or more, trips to Havana in 1959 when McWillie was involved in underworld gambling operations there. (307) Ruby may in fact have been serving as a courier for underworld gambling interests in Havana, probably for the purpose of transporting funds to a bank in Miami. (308)

The committee also found that Ruby had been connected with other Trafficante associates--R. D. Matthews, Jack Todd, and James Dolan-- all of Dallas. (309) .....

http://spot.acorn.net/jfkplace/1-HOLD/.Margot/hsca-vol/HSCA-V.05
.....
E. McWillie associates

        McWillie says that he knows R.D. Matthews, a Dallas gambler (p. 40). He knew Joseph Civello in Dallas (p. 59), and he knew Jack Todd and saw Todd once or twice in Cuba, but Ruby wasn't in Cuba at those times (p. 61). He knew Sam Yaras, brother of organized crime figure Dave Yaras (pp. 64-65).

        McWillie knew George Butler of the Dallas police (p. 74). He knew Meyer Panitz well (p. 100). He knew Mike McLaney and worked for him at one time, in 1975. He also knew Mike's brother Bill McLaney (p. 123)....


http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=42218856
......NOTE: I have listed his name as it is almost always used. His full name, on his Death Certificate, is Hollis Delois Green.

Buried on December 27, 1949.
.....He was killed by a 12-gauge shotgun in the parking lot at the rear of 542 West Commerce Street ("Sky-Vue Club"). His Death Certificate states: "Shot by Unknown Assassin."


http://quixoticjoust.blogspot.com/2011/06/jack-ruby-night-clubs-in-dallas.html
Friday, June 17, 2011
Jack Ruby Night Clubs in Dallas
According to Morty Freedman's son, the businesses run by Morty moved to the Dal-Tex Building during the 1960's. He doesn't recall the exact year that happened, but remembers the previous location as 2135 S. Lamar St., near the Corinth Street railroad tunnels and bridges across the Trinity River, leading to Oak Cliff. The first street Corinth intersects with after passing the railroads is now called Riverfront, but in the 1960s it was still known as Industrial Blvd. At that intersection there was a night club built by Dallas real estate tycoon, O. L. Nelms in about 1950 during the heyday of "western swing" music. Called the Bob Wills Ranch House, it was built to showcase the talent of the Texas Playboys and which featured other recording artists, such as Hank Thompson and the Brazos Valley Boys (Capitol Records), who appeared at the Bob Wills Ranch House in 1952.....

.......Backing up, the first Dallas night club Ruby ran is mentioned in the HSCA chapter about Jack Ruby's associates in a section focused on Andrew Armstrong, Jr., who, intriguingly enough, also worked both for Morty Freedman at Marilyn Belts for a time, and for Jack Ruby's Carousel Club from June 1962 until Feb. 1964. In Andrew Armstrong's testimony this club was called the Longhorn Ranch club (or Longhorn Ballroom) on Corinth and Industrial Blvd. Associated with Jack Ruby in the Longhorn was Dewey Groom, about whom an Associated Press article in the Paris News Nov. 24, 1983 stated:

    Dewey Groom, 65, who has owned the ballroom for 25 years, usually sings with the house band after the first set. "Your band is still here," reads a note tacked to a wall. "We want to see you on the bandstand." The weary Groom has lived the music. "I've been crying buckets of tears all day, and I've buckets more to cry before I'm through," he said in 1978, the day after a wife he married twice was shot and killed in another man's bedroom. Wilson Wren, the Longhorn's manager since 1974 and a janitor at the ballroom 10 years before that, says simply, "Mr. Groom is country. In his heart."... "I dressed flashy," he said. "I had all my clothes made in Fort Worth. I didn't have no money, but I had some fine clothes."
    Groom sang and played with several bands over the next few years, but said he could not make a decent living at entertaining and opened a nightclub on his friends' urging. He called it the Longhorn Ranch. In 1952, he joined the late Jack Ruby and Chicagoan Hy Fader at the Longhorn Ballroom's predecessor, known as the Bob Wills Ranch House. After leaving the club over a dispute, he reopened the Longhorn Ranch, then left the business entirely for two years. He became a barber.

Whether it was the same club or another at the same intersection is hard to discern, although the Guthrey Club was also mentioned in an FBI report  was then located at that same intersection (214 Corinth). Dewey Groom was also the proprietor at this club, also called Guthrie.

Once you pass that intersection, there is a long bridge on Corinth, and the next street that intersects is Eighth, which, coincidentally, was the location of a mattress factory where the employment commission sent Lee  Oswald on an interview in 1963, the Burton-Dixie Corp. at 817 Corinth. Following 8th Street to the northwest will bring you to N. Beckley Avenue, only two blocks from Lee Oswald's rooming house at No. 1026.

Small world.
(Tiny places, out there is greater Waco....)

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=77208487
Billy Briggs Stewart     Death:     Jan. 28, 2001
Spouse:  Jessie Juanita Horton Stewart (1926 - 2011)

The Mexia Daily News › 6 November 1958 › Page 1 - Newspapers ...
http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/12770485/
Billy Stewart, native of Groesbeck, has been named Chief of Police in Groesbeck ... were living in Oklahoma City when he accepted the Groesbeck position. Stewart is the son of Mrs. John Stewart of Groesbeck and his wife is the former Miss Juanita Horton of Mexia. .....

https://www.google.com/#q=groesbeck+%22billy+stewart%22+filling+station
 June 25, 1959

STEWART QUITS AS CHIEF OF POLICE

Billy Stewart resigned Thursday June 18, as Chief of Police for the City of Groesbeck.
Stewart stated this week that he planned to continue to make his home in Groesbeck and to devote full time to his service station here.

The Mexia Daily News › 24 July 1959 › Page 2 - Newspapers.com
http://www.newspapers.com/newspage/12394539
......
Jeff Russell of Mexia has been named Groesbeck Chiet of Police replacing Billy Stewart, who resigned. Russell formerly served as patrolman with the Mexia Police Department.

http://www.groesbeckfuneralhome.com/fh/obituaries/obituary.cfm?o_id=1039246&fh_id=11050
 Jessie Juanita Stewart
(February 2, 1926 - January 11, 2011)

Jessie Juanita Stewart, of Whitney, passed away on Tuesday, January 11, 2011, at the Hillcrest Baptist Hospital in Waco, at age 84.

Visitation will be Friday, January 14, 2011 from 6:00 to 8:00 P.M. at the Groesbeck Funeral Home.

Funeral services will be at 1:00 P.M. on Saturday, January 15, 2011, at the Groesbeck Funeral Home Chapel, with Rev. Tracy Sims officiating. Burial will follow at Faulkenberry Cemetery.

Pallbearers will be Shannon Hart, Tommy Morton, Dickie Horton, John Stewart, Danny Stewart, and Jason Stewart.

Jessie was born on February 2, 1926, to Ike Horton and Myrtle (Powell) Horton at Mexia. She grew up in Mexia, and at the young age of 17, she was united in marriage with Billy Stewart from Groesbeck. Part of their life together, in the fifties, she lived in Oklahoma while he traveled with Hank Thompson and the Brazos Valley Boys’ Band, where he played bass fiddle. She was great friends with Hanks’ wife, Dorothy and they had good times together. Jessie and Billy loved to hunt and fish and dance while they were young. She worked as a secretary and an insurance adjuster in Dallas for over thirty years, retiring in 1991. They moved to Whitney, by the lake, in 1967. When Billy became ill, her sister, Grace moved in with them to help her care for him and their mother. The two sisters lived together in Whitney the rest of her life. She was a member of the Fort Graham Baptist Church in Whitney.

Jessie was a “people person” who was loved by all who knew her; she was kind-hearted, had a great humor, and was willing to do what anyone else wanted to do. She loved playing Wahoo, 42, doing crossword puzzles and watching TV (that she called the  :cop: box.) She loved being picked on by her nephew, Steve, who she called her “Baby Boy” since she did not have any children. He called her “Auntee Mikie” (from the commercial of “Mikie will eat anything.”) Jessie loved trips to eat out, and in general loved life. The family feels they have lost a great loved one and a precious gift, but the world also lost a grand person.

Jessie was preceded in death by her parents; her husband Billy Stewart in 2001; two sisters, Beatrice Pettigrew and Ruth Goodwin; and three brothers-in-law, Bobby Stewart, John Lee Stewart, and Donald Stewart.

She is survived by her.....

This thread centers on Jack Todd - Jack Ruby, but it was inspired by this recent post of Hasan Yusuf :

https://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t693-billy-briggs-stewart
by Hasan Yusuf on Tue 25 Feb 2014, 7:21 am
On November 24, 1963, detective Jim Leavelle received information about a man named Billy Briggs Stewart, who was allegedly a close associate of Jack Ruby. Leavelle writes that if Stewart was brought in for questioning; "...he might be able to shed a lot of light as to the [blank] Of Jack Ruby."

http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/02/0234-001.gif (Dallas municipal archives, Box 1, Folder 7, Item 71).

I've got no idea what word(s) was left out, but I surmise that it might have been "motive" (for killing Oswald) or perhaps "mental/emotional state". Can anyone shed some light on who Billy Briggs Stewart was, and what the missing word(s) was? I haven't been able to find any other information on this guy.


http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=115503&relPageId=9
NO TITLE pg 9
Found in: FBI - HSCA Subject File: Russell Douglas Matthews
....SOPHIE GEBRON Dallas bookies He advised that the WALTONS are the parents of his wife RUBY KRISTOFFERSEN nee WALTON and that if MATTHEWS and GEBRON had been making telephone calls to the WALTONS it could...

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=77765&relPageId=3
NO TITLE pg 3
Found in: FBI - HSCA Subject File: Joe Campisi
# Title 162-451 RUBY WALTON KRISTOFFERSEN B~reat File 162-2443 Character INTERSTATE GAMBLING ACTIVITIES Principal High School Teague Texas advised he had been unable to obtain any additional
RIF#: 124-10280-10197   (08/17/67)   FBI#: CR 162-2443-3
DL 166-102 AT DALLAS TEXAS On September 30 1968 DAY KRISTOFFERSEN Dallas agent for the Dunes Hotel of Las Vegas 1907 Commerce Street advised of the following information during the course of being
RIF#: 124-90091-10112   (10/28/68)   FBI#: 166-636-38

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=77765&relPageId=4
The town of Teague is adjacent to Groesbeck in thinly populated Limestone County, TX

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Thompson_%28musician%29
Henry William Thompson (September 3, 1925 – November 6, 2007), known professionally as Hank Thompson, was an American country music entertainer whose career spanned seven decades.......

His backing band, The Brazos Valley Boys, was voted the top Country Western Band for 14 years in a row by Billboard. The primary difference between his music and that of Bob Wills was that Thompson, who used the swing beat and instrumentation to enhance his vocals, discouraged the intense instrumental soloing from his musicians that Wills encouraged; however, the "Hank Thompson sound" exceeded Bob Wills in Top 40 country hits.
......
Retirement and death
Thompson's last public performance had been on October 8, 2007 in his birthplace of Waco, Texas. ...

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