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Did Albert Osborne change the Real John Howard Bowen's date of birth?
Sun 03 Aug 2014, 10:09 am
John Howard Bowen's Sept., 1918 Military Draft Registration, images "b" and "a" :
FBI reported in CE 2443:
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http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh25/html/WC_Vol25_0301a.htm
.....but furnished him with a card reflecting the
following data :
Name : JOHN HOWARD BOWEN
Born : January 14, 1880
Father : JAMES A, BOWEN
Mother : EDITH MONTGOMERY
Place of Birth : Chester, Pennsylvania
File Number : D-869-1880
Filed : March 6, 1956
http://newspaperarchive.com/us/pennsylvania/chester/chester-times/1915/05-18/page-5
Chester Times Newspaper Archive: May 18, 1915 - Page 5
http://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=32875265
1885 - 1934 Fannie Hall Bowen
http://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=32875262
1878 - 1962 John Howard Bowen
(No Social Security record found)
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https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGYJ-Y18
Name: John Howard Bowen
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 31 Jan 1962
Event Place: Hamlet, Richmond, North Carolina
Birth Year: 1878
Burial Date: 04 Feb 1962
Burial Place: Chester, Pennsylvania
Cemetery: Lawncroft Cemetery
Residence Place: Hamlet, Richmond, N.C.
Address: 3 Main Street
Gender: Male
Age: 84
Marital Status: Widowed
Race (Original): White
Occupation: Clerk-Hotel
Birth Date: 04 Jan 1878
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Father's Name: James Bowen
Mother's Name: Edith Montgomery
Spouse's Name: Fannie Mae Hall
I have two questions.
What could the circumstances have been that resulted in the real John Howard Bowen's changed d.o.b. from the
date he put on his 1918 draft registration, January 14, 1880, which happened to be the same d.o.b., at the same place, Chester, PA, as the birthdate and place furnished by the John Howard Bowen to the FBI in Feb, 1964, to the birthdate on John Howard Bowen's January 31, 1962 Richmond County, NC death certificate, d.o.b. January 4, 1878?
Alfred Osborne gave his address, according to the FBI, as the same address as the YMCA in Montreal.
The real J. Howard Bowen.worked for the YMCA until at least 1927.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ymca+J.+howard+bowen+hamlet&tbm=bks
books.google.com/books?id=qoQTAAAAIAAJ
1927 - Snippet view - More editions
President, W. E. Blair General Secretary, Elmer D. Yost Memhership, Russell M. Schriner Physical, Walter A. Carnes Boys, Edwin D. Wiener Hamlet, R. R. President, L. D. Hushands General Secretary, J. Howard Bowen Assistant,
The US Census of Richmond County, NC, shows John Bowen, age 60, a widowed hotel clerk.
And, in 1961, the year before he died.:
Full text of "Hill's Hamlet (Richmond County, N.C.) City ...
archive.org/.../hillshamletrichm1961hill/hillshamletrich...
Internet Archive
This is the first Hill Directory of Hamlet and is completely standardized according to ...... Tel 582-2081 Bo wen J Howard elk Terminal Hotel r3 Main
OURHAMLET.ORG • View topic - Terminal Hotel in Hamlet NC
The growth of the YMCA was spurred by a demand for lodging by railroad workers. Bowen was actually employed by the Pennsylvania Railroad YMCA. IN the age before jetliner travel, the small town of Hamlet, NC was one of the busiest freight and passenger rail junctions in the eastern U.S. With only
a pop. of 6,000 the passenger rail terminal in Hamlet was recenlty reopened, despite the small population and the diminished routes of the Amtrak national passenger railroad system.
So , Hamlet once was an ideal places to quickly slip in and out of. Railroad employees received free
travel passes as an employment benefit. The imposter Bowen obviously knew some background.:
Emily Bowen was the real Bowen's stepmother, too young to likely be his mother. Sarah Hall was the
real Bowen's wife's mother.... The imposter tol the FBI he did not know his parents and lived with his
grandmother. The real Bowen was stiill living with father, step-mother and brother at age 20 in 1900.:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M3SH-1H9
The movie, Billy Bathgate was filmed at the Terminal Hotel shortly before it was destroyed by fire in 1993. As in the example of William Whaley, how did an inaccurate date of birth come to find its way on the death record and on the gravestone of the real John Howard Bowen?
No breakthrough, but the first new clues to emerge about this mystery man in a long time.:
FBI reported in CE 2443:
Quote
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh25/html/WC_Vol25_0301a.htm
.....but furnished him with a card reflecting the
following data :
Name : JOHN HOWARD BOWEN
Born : January 14, 1880
Father : JAMES A, BOWEN
Mother : EDITH MONTGOMERY
Place of Birth : Chester, Pennsylvania
File Number : D-869-1880
Filed : March 6, 1956
http://newspaperarchive.com/us/pennsylvania/chester/chester-times/1915/05-18/page-5
Chester Times Newspaper Archive: May 18, 1915 - Page 5
http://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=32875265
1885 - 1934 Fannie Hall Bowen
http://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=32875262
1878 - 1962 John Howard Bowen
(No Social Security record found)
Quote
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGYJ-Y18
Name: John Howard Bowen
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 31 Jan 1962
Event Place: Hamlet, Richmond, North Carolina
Birth Year: 1878
Burial Date: 04 Feb 1962
Burial Place: Chester, Pennsylvania
Cemetery: Lawncroft Cemetery
Residence Place: Hamlet, Richmond, N.C.
Address: 3 Main Street
Gender: Male
Age: 84
Marital Status: Widowed
Race (Original): White
Occupation: Clerk-Hotel
Birth Date: 04 Jan 1878
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Father's Name: James Bowen
Mother's Name: Edith Montgomery
Spouse's Name: Fannie Mae Hall
I have two questions.
What could the circumstances have been that resulted in the real John Howard Bowen's changed d.o.b. from the
date he put on his 1918 draft registration, January 14, 1880, which happened to be the same d.o.b., at the same place, Chester, PA, as the birthdate and place furnished by the John Howard Bowen to the FBI in Feb, 1964, to the birthdate on John Howard Bowen's January 31, 1962 Richmond County, NC death certificate, d.o.b. January 4, 1878?
Alfred Osborne gave his address, according to the FBI, as the same address as the YMCA in Montreal.
The real J. Howard Bowen.worked for the YMCA until at least 1927.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ymca+J.+howard+bowen+hamlet&tbm=bks
books.google.com/books?id=qoQTAAAAIAAJ
1927 - Snippet view - More editions
President, W. E. Blair General Secretary, Elmer D. Yost Memhership, Russell M. Schriner Physical, Walter A. Carnes Boys, Edwin D. Wiener Hamlet, R. R. President, L. D. Hushands General Secretary, J. Howard Bowen Assistant,
The US Census of Richmond County, NC, shows John Bowen, age 60, a widowed hotel clerk.
And, in 1961, the year before he died.:
Full text of "Hill's Hamlet (Richmond County, N.C.) City ...
archive.org/.../hillshamletrichm1961hill/hillshamletrich...
Internet Archive
This is the first Hill Directory of Hamlet and is completely standardized according to ...... Tel 582-2081 Bo wen J Howard elk Terminal Hotel r3 Main
OURHAMLET.ORG • View topic - Terminal Hotel in Hamlet NC
The growth of the YMCA was spurred by a demand for lodging by railroad workers. Bowen was actually employed by the Pennsylvania Railroad YMCA. IN the age before jetliner travel, the small town of Hamlet, NC was one of the busiest freight and passenger rail junctions in the eastern U.S. With only
a pop. of 6,000 the passenger rail terminal in Hamlet was recenlty reopened, despite the small population and the diminished routes of the Amtrak national passenger railroad system.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamlet,_North_Carolina#Additional_information
.........
Hamlet is at the junction of two major CSX rail lines, one running north towards Washington D.C., and the Northeast as well as south towards Florida, and the other running east towards Wilmington, North Carolina, and west towards Atlanta, Georgia and Birmingham, Alabama. It has been cited as the prime spot in North Carolina for train watchers.[6]
The recently reopened Hamlet Passenger Station, served by Amtrak, sits downtown at the junction of the lines. ......
So , Hamlet once was an ideal places to quickly slip in and out of. Railroad employees received free
travel passes as an employment benefit. The imposter Bowen obviously knew some background.:
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh25/html/WC_Vol25_0301a.htm
...his father's name was James A. Bowen, his moter was Emily Bowen, ....grandmother Sarah Hall,,
Emily Bowen was the real Bowen's stepmother, too young to likely be his mother. Sarah Hall was the
real Bowen's wife's mother.... The imposter tol the FBI he did not know his parents and lived with his
grandmother. The real Bowen was stiill living with father, step-mother and brother at age 20 in 1900.:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M3SH-1H9
The movie, Billy Bathgate was filmed at the Terminal Hotel shortly before it was destroyed by fire in 1993. As in the example of William Whaley, how did an inaccurate date of birth come to find its way on the death record and on the gravestone of the real John Howard Bowen?
No breakthrough, but the first new clues to emerge about this mystery man in a long time.:
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Re: Did Albert Osborne change the Real John Howard Bowen's date of birth?
Tue 05 Aug 2014, 4:02 am
Re-reading the Osborne thread at your old alma mater helped a bit with this, but the d.o.b. discrepancy is truly suspicious, Tom. Doctorow would have written this into a sub-plot somewhere, but then he's a fiction writer, one of my favourites. He nails Ragtime.
Thank you for this valuable piece of information. Again, Stars in your Crown.
Thank you for this valuable piece of information. Again, Stars in your Crown.
Re: Did Albert Osborne change the Real John Howard Bowen's date of birth?
Tue 05 Aug 2014, 11:46 am
Nice work, Tom.
FWIW, I don't think Osborne was connected to the assassination except as a witness. His avoiding of the FBI was most likely in relation to being a scam artist - ripping old ladies off for "charity" donations.
I tend to be the odd man out in that I actually think he was the only honest bus witness they had.
FWIW, I don't think Osborne was connected to the assassination except as a witness. His avoiding of the FBI was most likely in relation to being a scam artist - ripping old ladies off for "charity" donations.
I tend to be the odd man out in that I actually think he was the only honest bus witness they had.
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Re: Did Albert Osborne change the Real John Howard Bowen's date of birth?
Sat 23 Aug 2014, 7:47 pm
Thank you, Greg. I have refined the presentation quite a bit.
I would appreciate reading critical feedback. Did I miss anything?
Is there anything that should be removed or edited?
I decided to title it, "Crowded House" :
http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,859.msg333953.html#msg333953
I would appreciate reading critical feedback. Did I miss anything?
Is there anything that should be removed or edited?
I decided to title it, "Crowded House" :
http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,859.msg333953.html#msg333953
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Re: Did Albert Osborne change the Real John Howard Bowen's date of birth?
Sat 23 Aug 2014, 9:31 pm
I remember dreaming this was all over once, but that was a long time ago. Mr. May and Co. appear to be a nightmare that doesn't end. Keep sharing, my friend. It's not over.
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Re: Did Albert Osborne change the Real John Howard Bowen's date of birth?
Thu 11 Sep 2014, 11:29 pm
This is the first place I am posting a link to this new piece I
just finished on some research related to Oswald in Mexico City
and Bowen / Osborne.
There are still shiny pebbles on the beach worth picking up I hope. Please read it and offer other title suggestions. The title is my way so, far, of attempting to understand what it is telling about
pre-planning, intent, factions, and cover up. When reading, remember that the informant is reported by the FBI to have provided his business address as 299 Alhambra Cir,, Coral Gables, FL, and from then on the report of his call, and the caller himself, seem intended to never see the light of day. Or, I am I projecting a wrong hunch. I worded the beginning of the title with the assumption that the intent of the call does portend the opposite of my hunch, at least from the standpoint of the 27 November, caller......
Was the caller dialed in, per his background and office address, or who else would know to impersonate this name and give that address? DIvision V, or a lowkey sect. of CIA, DIA, ONI, or Cuba/KGB ? On whose instruction did the FBI conceal the call and the caller?
just finished on some research related to Oswald in Mexico City
and Bowen / Osborne.
There are still shiny pebbles on the beach worth picking up I hope. Please read it and offer other title suggestions. The title is my way so, far, of attempting to understand what it is telling about
pre-planning, intent, factions, and cover up. When reading, remember that the informant is reported by the FBI to have provided his business address as 299 Alhambra Cir,, Coral Gables, FL, and from then on the report of his call, and the caller himself, seem intended to never see the light of day. Or, I am I projecting a wrong hunch. I worded the beginning of the title with the assumption that the intent of the call does portend the opposite of my hunch, at least from the standpoint of the 27 November, caller......
Was the caller dialed in, per his background and office address, or who else would know to impersonate this name and give that address? DIvision V, or a lowkey sect. of CIA, DIA, ONI, or Cuba/KGB ? On whose instruction did the FBI conceal the call and the caller?
27 November Call to the FBI; An Ace In The Hole, Or Were Most Of U.S. Intel Depts. Patsified Along With Lee Harvey Oswald?
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