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Post by barto on Tue 01 Nov 2016, 2:23 am


[size=16][size=13] A Coup in Camelot Award-Winning JFK Assassination Documentary Available on November 4, 2016 on iTunes and Other     Digital Platforms
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October 31, 2016 -- Los Angeles, CA -- A Coup in Camelot the award-winning documentary on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy will be available on November 4, 2016 on iTunes, Amazon Video Direct, Google Play and Vimeo OnDemand.
 
On November 4th, the DVD and Blu-ray can be purchased exclusively on the film’s website at http://acoupincamelot.com/.
 
Narrated by Emmy award-winning actor Peter Coyote, directed/produced by Stephen Goetsch and written/produced by Art Van Kampen, A Coup in Camelot is a powerful examination of compelling new research, exclusive interviews and critical analysis by the top medical, forensic and research experts in the country.
 
“November 22, 2016 marks the 53rd anniversary of the assassination of the country’s 35th president,” said Stephen Goetsch, director/producer. “We are pleased to offer audiences this unbiased and impassioned addition to the historical record of this tragic event.”
 
Five decades later crucial questions remain about President Kennedy’s assassination.  The film provides extensive evidence of botched Secret Service protocols, Zapruder film analysis with 6k digital scans, shocking medical evidence revelations, and expert Oswald analysis, to uncover the dramatic tale of A Coup In Camelot.


The following JFK assassination experts who appear in the film are available for interviews:
 
·         Douglas Horne – Assassination Records Review Board, Author
·         Vince Palamara – Secret Service Expert, Author
·         Sherry Fiester – Forensics Expert, Author

.         Dr. David Mantik - Radiologist
·         Dick Russell – Oswald Expert, Author
·         Barry Ernest – Oswald Expert, Author
·         Jerry Dealey – Historian, Author
 
For the film experts’ biographies visit: http://acoupincamelot.com/bios.html
 
To view the trailer visit: http://acoupincamelot.com/trailer.html
 
For complete information on A Coup in Camelot visit: http://acoupincamelot.com/

 
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Re: A Coup In Camelot

Post by beowulf on Fri 04 Nov 2016, 7:24 am

4:20 EDT, Mark Lane's movie Executive Action just started.

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Post by beowulf on Fri 04 Nov 2016, 7:27 am

sorry, Mark Lane movie is on Turner Classic Movies (TCM)

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Post by Jake Sykes on Fri 04 Nov 2016, 10:15 pm

Too bad Coup in Camelot didn't include a segment on Prayer Man. They wanted to be up to the minute with the latest research but they clearly missed the boat on that one. Better luck next time.
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Post by barto on Fri 04 Nov 2016, 10:43 pm

The movie was already completed a few years back, I think they tried to get a main stream release which did not seem to work hence them releasing it by themselves......

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Re: A Coup In Camelot

Post by Jake Sykes on Mon 07 Nov 2016, 11:14 am

So they got their picture of Shelley wrong. That guy was photographed in Ft. Worth (credit Barto). Shelley wasn't a Ft. Worth guy. I wonder why they don't know what Shelley looked like? Kinda strange.

Good movie though. Clarified some things very nicely.

Prayer Man belongs in it, or at least in the next one anyway.
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Re: A Coup In Camelot

Post by barto on Fri 11 Nov 2016, 2:48 am

http://www.reopenkennedycase.org/apps/forums/topics/show/13263869-pencil-pushing-man-who-is-he-

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Post by barto on Sun 18 Dec 2016, 11:13 am

https://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-reviews/a-coup-in-camelot

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Re: A Coup In Camelot

Post by steely dan on Sun 18 Dec 2016, 11:46 am

barto wrote:https://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-reviews/a-coup-in-camelot
Is Martin supporting the 2nd floor lunchroom encounter? Really?
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Re: A Coup In Camelot

Post by greg parker on Sun 18 Dec 2016, 2:57 pm

steely dan wrote:
barto wrote:https://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-reviews/a-coup-in-camelot
Is Martin supporting the 2nd floor lunchroom encounter? Really?
That's what the man says, Steely.

Meanwhile here is Barry's dream sequence from the film showing how the whole Oswald-Adams thing unfolded. Apparently they both waltzed down the stairs together till Barry staged his intervention, culminating in a worldwide book tour by himself and Victoria. All very tactful and beautiful to watch. I give it 5 Millers.


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Post by greg parker on Sun 18 Dec 2016, 3:45 pm

The flaw in the ointment:

Barry claims that Adams never told the commission that she saw Lovelady and Shelley on the 1st floor.

But unfortunately for Barry, his discovery of the Garner document proves otherwise.



As most here would be aware, witnesses were given the opportunity to take a copy of their deposition and make any corrections to it. That is all that is happening with the Stroud document re Adams at least - some corrections are being sent back. One of the corrections NOT being made? That she saw Lovelady and Shelley on the first floor.

 Or is Barry going to claim that the transcript she got was pre-alteration? Did Barry ever ask Victoria to see her copy of the transcript? Or are they going to claim she tossed it out or lined the bottom of the budgie cage with it? As you would!

Bah!

She saw them.


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Post by greg parker on Sun 18 Dec 2016, 3:55 pm

and have just checked her testimony, the sighting of Shelley and Lovelady comes up on 5 separate occasions. That is a LOT of alteration good ol' Barry is supporting. 

It's crap. She said it. Multiple times.

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Post by steely dan on Sun 18 Dec 2016, 4:00 pm

Looks like Martin was distracted by Barry's organ. Either way, somebody played it.
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Post by greg parker on Sun 18 Dec 2016, 4:30 pm

I'm convinced Barry's World of Organs is a front.

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Post by Stan Dane on Sun 18 Dec 2016, 5:56 pm

I have Barry's book and I always focused on the obvious main point being made: Victoria Adams, along with Sandra Styles, ran down the stairs almost immediately after the last shot was fired and made it down to the first floor about a minute later, seeing or hearing no one in the process.
 
I did not focus (or I don't remember doing so, as I read the book about 5-6 years ago) on her testimony where she says she saw Shelley and Lovelady on the first floor. She does say that numerous times.
 
I just skimmed back through Barry's book and he talks a lot about how Adams and Styles-Butler told him, throughout the book, that they did not see Shelley and Lovelady on the first floor when they got down there.
 
Some quotes from the book:

Barry Ernest wrote:I was, quite naturally, always bothered by her statement she saw and briefly spoke with William Shelley and Billy Lovelady on the first floor. After all, that was what the Warren Commission and others used to discredit Victoria Adams. 
 
"A few people were milling around on the first floor," she explained.  "One was a black man."  That was apparently the same man Ms. Adams had mentioned.  I casually asked her if William Shelley or Billy Lovelady were there. "No," she said, emphasizing she would have recognized them since she knew both men well.

 
Ms. Adams was not surprised when I told her of Mrs. Butler’s comments concerning when they had left the window, and the absence of both Shelly and Lovelady on the first floor.  Again, it was something she had known already.  But she was happy that, for the first time, someone else now knew.  Someone had finally talked with both her and Sandra Styles and had uncovered the truth.

 
But they have all been wrong.  The evidence is now clear that Ms. Adams did not see Shelley and Lovelady.  And they did not see her. The testimony of both Shelley and Lovelady shows that neither saw Ms. Adams on the first floor.   Lovelady’s testimony strongly suggests he was coached into his response that he "saw a girl but I wouldn’t swear to it it’s Vickie."  The Warren Report then revised that comment to read that he "saw a girl on the first floor who he believes was Victoria Adams."
 
Are we saying here that Adams' testimony is indeed correct and Barry's statements about what Adams and Styles-Butler told him are not correct?
 
I'm trying to get my age-addled head around this. I've never thought much about it before, other than how Adams' journey down the steps severely undermines the official story of Oswald running down the steps to the second floor and Truly and Baker coming up right away.

Is this it, or am I missing something obvious? I've really soured on Barry over the past year because of his hostility to Prayer Man. He became like Kelly to me.
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Post by greg parker on Sun 18 Dec 2016, 6:52 pm

Stan Dane wrote:I have Barry's book and I always focused on the obvious main point being made: Victoria Adams, along with Sandra Styles, ran down the stairs almost immediately after the last shot was fired and made it down to the first floor about a minute later, seeing or hearing no one in the process.
 
I did not focus (or I don't remember doing so, as I read the book about 5-6 years ago) on her testimony where she says she saw Shelley and Lovelady on the first floor. She does say that numerous times.
 
I just skimmed back through Barry's book and he talks a lot about how Adams and Styles-Butler told him, throughout the book, that they did not see Shelley and Lovelady on the first floor when they got down there.
 
Some quotes from the book:

Barry Ernest wrote:I was, quite naturally, always bothered by her statement she saw and briefly spoke with William Shelley and Billy Lovelady on the first floor. After all, that was what the Warren Commission and others used to discredit Victoria Adams. 
 
"A few people were milling around on the first floor," she explained.  "One was a black man."  That was apparently the same man Ms. Adams had mentioned.  I casually asked her if William Shelley or Billy Lovelady were there. "No," she said, emphasizing she would have recognized them since she knew both men well.

 
Ms. Adams was not surprised when I told her of Mrs. Butler’s comments concerning when they had left the window, and the absence of both Shelly and Lovelady on the first floor.  Again, it was something she had known already.  But she was happy that, for the first time, someone else now knew.  Someone had finally talked with both her and Sandra Styles and had uncovered the truth.

 
But they have all been wrong.  The evidence is now clear that Ms. Adams did not see Shelley and Lovelady.  And they did not see her. The testimony of both Shelley and Lovelady shows that neither saw Ms. Adams on the first floor.   Lovelady’s testimony strongly suggests he was coached into his response that he "saw a girl but I wouldn’t swear to it it’s Vickie."  The Warren Report then revised that comment to read that he "saw a girl on the first floor who he believes was Victoria Adams."
 
Are we saying here that Adams' testimony is indeed correct and Barry's statements about what Adams and Styles-Butler told him are not correct?
 
I'm trying to get my age-addled head around this. I've never thought much about it before, other than how Adams' journey down the steps severely undermines the official story of Oswald running down the steps to the second floor and Truly and Baker coming up right away.

Is this it, or am I missing something obvious? I've really soured on Barry over the past year because of his hostility to Prayer Man. He became like Kelly to me.
Stan, here is what Sandra Styles told Sean M:

"I have no clear recollection of seeing Bill Shelley or Billy Lovelady (both of whom I had a passing acquaintance with) near the rear of the building when we reached the first floor. I have a vague recollection of seeing them at some point around the front entrance. But it's perfectly possible we did see them where Vickie said we did - near the freight elevator."

According to Baker, we also have 2 white males by the elevators. Who else could it be but Lovelady and Shelley? (does barry or his organ address this?)

She later allegedly emphatically denied seeing them according to Barry and his house of organs. 

And again - you also have Shelley telling the WC that upon re-entering he saw Eddie Piper coming from his viewing position to the coffee area. According to Piper, he started running to that spot right after the shots. Either Shelley was supporting a false alibi for Piper or he did run straight inside. 

I can't tell you why anyone would be lying now. But clearly, timing is key depending on what story you support. And the timing is excruciatingly tight for Oswald - so much so that even after all the TSBD fudging, they still had to wind back the time of Tippit's death to make it work. 

Why would Shelley and Lovelady lie back then? To thwart Adams because if Adams is telling the truth about how quickly she came down, Oswald is innocent. Barry on the other hand, needed Adams NOT to see them because he believed Shelley and Lovelady's testimony.  

In any event, none of it happened as quickly as claimed if Baker was running toward the ruckus at the Del Tex. I think by the time he got there, it was under control and he went back to the TSBD.... a delay of even a dozen seconds for this makes a big difference.


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Post by Stan Dane on Sun 18 Dec 2016, 7:14 pm

I got it. Yes, it makes perfect sense.

Damn, you are good sir.

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Post by greg parker on Sun 18 Dec 2016, 11:09 pm

Stan,

if I can put it this way, I believe Sean is a person of the highest integrity. He had no motive to elicit anything other than real memory. 

It's more than possible that Adams noticed the two by the elevator, but Styles didn't. Or maybe she did but was in shock and it didn't register, and then she did see them a bit later near the front and by then, she'd calmed herself a bit.

We know some authors can be good at getting witnesses to say what they want to hear. JVB Got Anna Lewis to say she double-dated with Judyth and Lee. John Armstrong got Myra Darouse to "recall" that the boy she remembered from home class wanted to be called "Harvey" - when the fact is that the boy she was recalling wasn't even Lee, it was another of Voebel's friends named Bobby Newman.
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Post by Jake Sykes on Mon 19 Dec 2016, 4:36 am

Let's not forget those oldies from the WC dance card. One must wonder to what extent that score exercised the dancing memories of ladies waltzing around the venerable TSBD dance hall. Watch your step ladies. You do know that tune, right?
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