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Jimbo sees Oswalds everywhere. I think there may even be one under his bed

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Jimbo sees Oswalds everywhere. I think there may even be one under his bed

Post by greg parker on Tue 11 Apr 2017, 10:26 am

Jimbo Hargrove wrote:Michael Walton's outrage is matched by his ignorance of this case.
Walton is unaware that Frazier saw a second Oswald walking up Houston behind the Book Depository.

No, Jimbo. That is a mischaracterization. Frazier said he saw the one and only Lee Harvey Oswald - not a "second" Oswald.  And Frazier has about as much credibility at this point as say, Ruth Paine.

 He is unaware that Roger Craig and others (Robinson, Cooper, Forrest, Pennington) saw a second Oswald getting into a Nash Rambler station wagon on Elm St. immediately after the hit.  

No, Jimbo. That is a mischaracterization. These witnesses said they saw someone they believed looked like Lee Harvey Oswald. Only one was given a chance to view Oswald and he ID'd him as the man he had seen and not someone who looked a bit like the person in custody but was 2 inches taller and 20 pounds heavier.   

 
He doesn’t know that one Oswald was arrested or detained in the balcony of the Texas Theater while the other was arrested on the main floor,

There was only one arrest. Stringfellow has conflated early reports of a suspect up on the balcony with the actual circumstances of the arrest. 

Despite what any cop has said, according to Jim Ewell,  "there must have been about fifteen or twenty high school age boys up there watching. They’d skipped school to watch double feature war movies. One of them was “War Is Hell.”" I know who is more believable. Does anyone really think that the cops were arresting high school kids for the murder of Tippit?
http://www.kenrahn.com/JFK/History/The_deed/Sneed/Ewell.html

as shown by multiple Dallas Police reports and confirmed by Butch Burroughs.

Yes, they all confirmed an arrest on the ground floor. Thank you.

He is ignorant of the fact that Bernard Haire and others saw a second Oswald led out the back of the Texas Theater while Classic Oswald was dragged out the front.  I could go on, but it would all be lost on Walton, who chooses only to be outraged by what he doesn’t even understand.

Bernard Haire saw a witness being taken in. Or is Hargrove unaware that  a witness or two from inside the theater did give statements?

I could go on,

Or move on to another "but what about" when you see this has been debunked. And then you'll scrub the debunking from your memory and trot out the same bullshit in a week.

but it would all be lost on Walton, who chooses only to be outraged by what he doesn’t even understand.

No one has a hope of understanding the reality of this case with all this bullshit flying around. You are a disgrace of Fetzerian proportions. 

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Post by Vinny on Wed 12 Apr 2017, 2:22 am

Quite amazing that people actually believe this crazy theory that just falls apart on close examination.

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Re: Jimbo sees Oswalds everywhere. I think there may even be one under his bed

Post by greg parker on Wed 12 Apr 2017, 9:03 am

Vinny wrote:Quite amazing that people actually believe this crazy theory that just falls apart on close examination.
It is scary what some people are willing to believe. Worse still are those who cling to such beliefs despite a mountain of evidence showing the falsity of it.

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Post by greg parker on Wed 12 Apr 2017, 9:10 am

Jimbo Hargrove wrote:Since several people like to point to Greg Parker’s site and say how he is correcting my “errors,” let’s take a look at Parker’s latest effort. (Moderators note: Mr. Parker is reproducing my posts from this site, and so it seems only fair that I post his words here, right?)

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ME: He is unaware that Roger Craig and others (Robinson, Cooper, Forrest, Pennington) saw a second Oswald getting into a Nash Rambler station wagon on Elm St. immediately after the hit.  

PARKER: No, Jimbo. That is a mischaracterization. These witnesses said they saw someone they believed looked like Lee Harvey Oswald. Only one was given a chance to view Oswald and he ID'd him as the man he had seen and not someone who looked a bit like the person in custody but was 2 inches taller and 20 pounds heavier.   

I RESPOND: Which is the precise description of American-born Lee Oswald, in contrast to the shorter, lighter Russian-speaking Harvey Oswald, both of whom were in the USMC.

On his 9/3/59 USMC medical report LEE Harvey Oswald’s height is listed at 5’ 11” (which is 71 inches) and his weight as 150 lbs.
Dear oh dear. Jimbo just can't seem to grasp what he is reading. 

Jimbo can't even understand the idiocy of his reply.

I say Craid ID'd the Oswald in custody ("Harvey" according to Jimbo) as the person he had seen get into the Rambler and NOT REPEAT FOR JIMBO NOT someone who looked a bit like him but was 2 inches taller and 20 pounds heavier ("Lee" according to Jimbo).


So according to Jim, Craig IDing "Harvey" as the Rambler man when according to the bible, it was Lee who was the Rambler Man somehow becomes proof it was Lee?

God give me strength and a walking stick to beat some sense into poor old Jimbo.

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Post by greg parker on Wed 12 Apr 2017, 9:52 am

Jimbo Hargrove wrote:ME: He doesn’t know that one Oswald was arrested or detained in the balcony of the Texas Theater while the other was arrested on the main floor,
PARKER: There was only one arrest. Stringfellow has conflated early reports of a suspect up on the balcony with the actual circumstances of the arrest.
PARKER: Despite what any cop has said, according to Jim Ewell, "there must have been about fifteen or twenty high school age boys up there watching. They’d skipped school to watch double feature war movies. One of them was “War Is Hell.”" I know who is more believable. Does anyone really think that the cops were arresting high school kids for the murder of Tippit?
I RESPOND: Multiple Dallas Police reports indicate Oswald was arrested in the theater balcony.
The use of the word "multiple" here whilst technically correct, is also misleading in that though it can simply mean "more than one", it is mainly used to indicate more than two. 

Talbot was out the back of the theater questioning a "boy" at the time Oswald was arrested, so he personally was not a witness to where it happened.  Who this was is not known, but it would have ben Brewer or one of the patrons, including potentially, any of the schoolboys from the balcony.
http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/06/0688-001.gif

Is Jim is now willing to suggest that the big strapping Lee could pass himself off as a schoolboy?

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Post by greg parker on Wed 12 Apr 2017, 10:03 am

Jimbo Hargrove wrote:
 
 
ME: He is ignorant of the fact that Bernard Haire and others saw a second Oswald led out the back of the Texas Theater while Classic Oswald was dragged out the front. I could go on, but it would all be lost on Walton, who chooses only to be outraged by what he doesn’t even understand.
PARKER: Bernard Haire saw a witness being taken in. Or is Hargrove unaware that a witness or two from inside the theater did give statements?
I RESPOND: Bernard Haire thought for 25 years that he had seen Oswald under arrest being led out the back of the Texas Theater. Citing an interview with Jim Marrs, James Douglass continues:
“Police brought a young white man out,” Haire told an interviewer, “The man was dressed in a pullover shirt and slacks. He seemed to be flushed, as if he’d been in a struggle. Police put the man in a police car and drove off.”
 
When Haire was told in 1987 that Lee Harvey Oswald had been brought out the front of the theater by police, he was shocked.
“I don’t know who I saw arrested,” he said in bewilderment.
Butch Burroughs and Bernard Haire are complementary witnesses. From their perspectives both inside and outside the Texas Theater, they saw an Oswald double arrested and taken to a police car in the back alley only minutes after the arrest of Lee Harvey Oswald. [ Ibid, p. 292]
 
Inadvertently as it may be, Mr. Parker is helping confirm the presence of two Oswalds at both the Texas School Book Depository and the Texas Theater. As he had done for the previous month or so, Lee framed Harvey for the hit.
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Bernard Haire can assume all he wants that he witnessed the arrest of Lee Harvey Oswald out the back of the theater. What he saw though was a witness taken out the back and questioned and then after the arrest of Oswald was secured, taken in to give a statement.

One can hardly blame Haire for thinking he was witnessing the arrest of the culprit at the time, but anyone who believes Haire remained convinced of that until 1987 when he was told that Oswald was brought out the front could only be a true believer in a cult or a total moron. Really, who would believe Haire was blissfully unaware of Oswald being arrested out the front for 24 years? He worked in the area; probably lived in the area. He had to know people who witnessed the arrest out the front. Ad that had to come up for discussion at some point in time prior to 1987 - not to mention the number of times the footage and photos would be blasted over the media.

Haire is believable to these twats for one reason and one reason only - his claims support this dare I say hair-brained nonsense.


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Post by greg parker on Thu 22 Jun 2017, 12:53 pm

Wonderful!

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Very cute, Stan.
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