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Mon 11 Feb 2019, 1:25 am
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This could do with a polish before he presents it at the Lancer conference.

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Mon 11 Feb 2019, 2:02 am
With the exception of Doyle, who resides in a world all his own, it is a testament to the power of Barto's Bombshell to see the maimed logic of nutters struggling to regain their feet after having been rocked by Hosty's proof of the alibi outlined by Oswald at the time of his arrest. 

What is gratifying is that the thundering reaction to this colossal development is an outgrowth from all our years working to draw attention to the PM evidence which  has set the table for a development like this one. Everyone is already fully aware of PM and what it means that he is Oswald. This latest evidence entirely clears the table for the next full course of Prayer Man developments.


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Mon 11 Feb 2019, 2:09 am
Yes, apart from a few indiscretions, Brian's logic is impeccable: insult someone enough and the evidence disappears.
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Mon 11 Feb 2019, 6:14 am
The response overall from these nuts was to be expected, but not that ferocious, but it has had me smile all day yesterday and today. Boy are these fuckwits miserable and spiteful. Steve Roe takes the biscuit. And Von Pein is a major league cowardly arsehole. And Doyle well that nut is defo numero uno.
Meanwhile the hits to my website yesterday and today are just amazing Wink
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Mon 11 Feb 2019, 11:59 am
Von Pien said LHO was a world class liar and this was just one more. World class means smart, quick, clever, yet he was so stupid in his lie that he said he wasn't on the 2nd when two credible witnesses saw him there (supposedly) and according to their story he knew it fully well. But no, Mr. World Class Liar decided to ignore that fact and lie by saying he was on the first. Hell, if that was his MO, then why didn't he just try to get out of the whole deal by saying he didn't go to work that day and stood in bed  back in Irving? Same stupid difference and also a stupid conjecture by Von Pien. LHO was in fact quite intelligent, and street smart enough to know better than to try anything so amateur as to lie about facts known to others as well as to himself.

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Mon 11 Feb 2019, 7:33 pm
This is a crucial discovery.

Those most heavily involved in investigating the Prayer Man issue deserve a huge amount of credit.

Warren critics can no longer credibly sit on the fence over PM.


There's also a great opportunity for mainstream journalists and documentary-makers to destroy half a century of myth-making. Will any have the courage to do so?

My fear is that so many people would be left with egg on their faces it's almost a taboo subject area.

So much has been invested emotionally and psychologically in the US supporting the LN version that it may require intervention from outside.
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Mon 11 Feb 2019, 8:43 pm
For many years DVP was saying that if Oswald was on the front steps, why did he never say it in custody. After all he had several chances to do so. Now when the recently discovered Hosty notes show that he did indeed claim to be out in front, DVP claims Oswald was lying when he said that.

 What a joke these guys are.

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Mon 11 Feb 2019, 8:46 pm
Great sum up by Alan Ford.

The newly discovered (by Mr. Bart Kamp) handwritten note from James Hosty both gives us the detail we were looking for, and explains why there was no way in hell it was ever going to find its way into an official printed report:

"Then went outside to watch P[residential] Parade."

The game's well and truly up now. Only fools and knaves will continue to cling on to the discredited lunchroom encounter garbage and its attendant idiocies. And only fools and knaves will continue to deny the significance of the figure standing on the west side of the doorway in the Wiegman and Darnell films. It's none other than Mr Oswald.

The arc of the moral universe may be long, friends, but it really does bend toward justice.

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Mon 11 Feb 2019, 10:10 pm
ROKC will announce another crucial discovery on Saturday.
Strap in Doyle  Basketball

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Mon 11 Feb 2019, 11:39 pm
Finally, the PM argument has equal footing to go toe to toe with any LN'r, or doubting CT'r for that matter, that is out there.

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Tue 12 Feb 2019, 12:16 am
Hear, hear to all of the above. I was glad to see Alan Ford and Vanessa Loney back posting in the McRea and EF forums this morning. Two voices of reason and sanity. 

On the other hand, the lone nutters (and the other individual outstanding in his own field) are frantically scattering red herrings all over the place trying to distract and create confusion.

Barto’s find is arguably the single most important development in the case since the Prayer Man thesis was presented by Sean Murphy five and a half years ago. I’m looking forward greatly to the further revelation mentioned by Barto.

The desperation of lone nutters Carlier and Von Pein is evidenced by the essentially same circular argument that they’re both now falling back on: LHO is guilty, therefore he was lying when he said he was outside the TSBD at the time of the assassination.

This is the classic logical fallacy of “begging the question”, which has been defined as:

Begging the question, sometimes known by its Latin name petitio principii (meaning assuming the initial point), is a logical fallacy in which the writer or speaker assumes the statement under examination to be true. In other words, begging the question involves using a premise to support itself. If the premise is questionable, then the argument is bad.
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Tue 12 Feb 2019, 2:55 am
Jake Sykes wrote:Von Pien said LHO was a world class liar and this was just one more. 

Von Pein projects.
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Tue 12 Feb 2019, 3:03 am
DVP seems to be trying hard to distract people away from Barto's new find. All his silly posts might be a deliberate ploy to divert attention.

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Tue 12 Feb 2019, 4:20 am
That seems to be his MO Vinny. It's only going to work on the uninitiated though. Otherwise as Goban said, his arguments are unfit for any forum.

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Tue 12 Feb 2019, 4:27 am
Brian has found another wig... for the Hosty note. It's also gained some weight.

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Tue 12 Feb 2019, 7:57 am
By Alan Ford.

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: Prayer Man is Oswald.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? Not even Oswald said he went out front!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: There's lots of evidence pointing to the contrary.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? There's no evidence to the contrary!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: What about Harry Holmes's WC testimony, and...

LONE NUTTER: You call that evidence? Ha ha ha. Nothing to see here!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: What if we were to find hard evidence that Oswald said he went out front?

LONE NUTTER: So you admit you have no hard evidence! Ha ha ha. Try harder!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: Actually, we have just uncovered a note written by Agent James Hosty which states that Oswald said he went out front.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? Oswald was a liar!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: But the Hosty note proves that Captain Fritz and co. lied about what he said in custody.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? Oswald was a liar!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: But the Hosty note corroborates Carolyn Arnold and Sarah Stanton's sighting of Oswald in the lunchroom before the assassination.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? There's absolutely no photographic or film evidence of Oswald in the lunchroom before the assassination. Ha ha ha. Try harder!

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Tue 12 Feb 2019, 9:12 am
Gilbride, Doyle, DVP, Frenchie and the rest of the quacks remind me of the old saying, ducks always quack the loudest just before they go over the falls.

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Tue 12 Feb 2019, 10:15 am
That's true, Jake. I have to say, though, that it's somewhat disheartening to see Alan Ford outnumbered by five to one in McRea's forum. Doyle alone would wear anyone down with his trolling, never mind the rest of them.

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Thu 14 Feb 2019, 8:08 am
And of course the loneliest of the loneliest had to give his opinion on this matter 
https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?17069-Malcolm-Blunt-via-Bart-Kamp-Hosty-s-notes#.XGSFaVX7SUk

He even has the gal to mention that the 6th floor museum, has the Darnell film, whereas I made mention of this already more than one month ago HERE, yet treats the whole thing as his discovery.  And even ups it by telling us to check it out whereas I already asked two people to do so. 

Then drools on with I don't see anything substantive in Hosty's notes that you can build a firm argument on- it looks to me like Chinese whispers, happening as soon as what happened at 3:30ish got transcribed by Hosty, Fritz and Bookhout.


Gilbride at his best....if this then if that we ought the have one massive IF


No shit Dickie boy...it must be real lonesome at DPF and mega boring feeding Brian Doyle with flawed argumentation. Just to keep up with us.

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Thu 14 Feb 2019, 10:02 am
Goban Saor wrote:That's true, Jake. I have to say, though, that it's somewhat disheartening to see Alan Ford outnumbered by five to one in McRea's forum. Doyle alone would wear anyone down with his trolling, never mind the rest of them.


Alan is holding the fort nicely, not one of this plebs has had the strength to anything against the solid arguments of him. Tim Nickerson is fishing and Doyle is doing his usual fabricating and lying.... like a walk in the park for Alan.

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Thu 14 Feb 2019, 1:50 pm
FC and DVP have transformed into rubber ball boys because they are bouncing off the walls, floors, and ceilings at EF. You have created chaos Barto.   Go for it! Go for it! Go for it!  Nice!

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Thu 14 Feb 2019, 7:06 pm
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Goban Saor wrote:That's true, Jake. I have to say, though, that it's somewhat disheartening to see Alan Ford outnumbered by five to one in McRea's forum. Doyle alone would wear anyone down with his trolling, never mind the rest of them.


Alan is holding the fort nicely, not one of this plebs has had the strength to anything against the solid arguments of him. Tim Nickerson is fishing and Doyle is doing his usual fabricating and lying.... like a walk in the park for Alan.
It has to be upsetting for Brian. He's discovered his shit wont stick to anything...not even a blanket.

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Thu 14 Feb 2019, 11:29 pm
Yes, I’m glad to say I need not have worried about Alan Ford being outnumbered. He’s doing a great job debunking the nonsense Doyle and the others are throwing at him. Truth is a powerful weapon.
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Fri 15 Feb 2019, 8:28 am
Damn....that is insane. This discovery has really lit the fire under some asses. Way to go Barto/Blunt  Cool
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Fri 15 Feb 2019, 6:44 pm
BC_II wrote:Damn....that is insane. This discovery has really lit the fire under some asses. Way to go Barto/Blunt  Cool
Quite right BC. Fair to say that FC is feeling more heat than Joan of Arc's arse. I do love his avatar btw....he looks like a crooner sharing critical thinking skills between songs.

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