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Prayer Man Not Allowed On Wikipedia
Tue 05 Mar 2019, 8:51 pm
Re: Prayer Man Not Allowed On Wikipedia
Wed 06 Mar 2019, 3:27 am
Wikipedia is filled with wankers who zealously guard pages and change content to what they seem to be thinking to be right.
You can change t yourself but you will end up in a bitter war with these nutcases....
You can change t yourself but you will end up in a bitter war with these nutcases....
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Re: Prayer Man Not Allowed On Wikipedia
Wed 06 Mar 2019, 4:48 pm
Now Doyle is poking his nose in.
The Prayer Man nuts tried to enter the Prayer Man claim on the Wikipedia Kennedy Assassination article...It got deleted...Here's what the Wikipedia moderator wrote:
" The page reflects the conclusions, in large part, of the official investigations. The "Prayer Man' claim is an example of a claim (Like the Hickey "shot" at Kennedy) which is based on an extremely flimsy piece of evidence (a very blurry image of a man in the TSBD doorway in the Couch film who, the author and others claim, was Oswald) which requires the reams of evidence placing Oswald elsewhere to be discredited, dismissed or ignored. So, while Roy Truly positively identified Oswald as the man Baker stopped (Truly, after all, hired him) and confirmed the location as the 2nd floor, he is therefore a liar and somehow involved with the "conspiracy". Baker's statement that the person he encountered was on the 3rd or 4th floor and that the man was "about 30" is elevated to the level of Gospel truth that this "couldn't" have been Oswald (who was 24), despite both Baker and Truly saying they encountered the same man. The fact that Baker had never set foot in the building and therefore could easily be unsure of where the encounter took place (he didn't specify a floor after all) is neither here nor there in the realm of conspiracy theorists. Of course the fact that Oswald HIMSELF confirmed the encounter...well, that was planted evidence, he never said that, etc. Others who saw Oswald leave the area and go through the office with a bottle of Coke are also dismissed, as is the fact the numerous employees who would have seen Oswald on the steps but never identified him...well, they must have been part of the conspiracy as well!
In other words, this is not simply a "new" theory, it is a "fringe" theory as it dismisses, out of hand, positive, corroborating evidence in order to accept flimsy evidence placing Oswald elsewhere. It more properly resides on the conspiracy theory page. "
While I agree with the Wikipedia moderator that the theory is bunk I disagree with his logic...I think Baker fudged the location of Oswald because he was trying to cover-up the fact Oswald was in the second floor lunch room...This Wikipedia moderator is oblivious to the fact it is possible Baker also saw another person on the 3rd floor landing...His best point is that other employees would have seen Oswald on the front steps if he was out there...
What you are seeing is the damage that the DiEugenio-approved Prayer Man nuts are causing the credible assassination research community...They are giving official story backers the chance to dismiss credible researchers out of hand and associate them with nut researchers like Bart Kamp...
In the same Wikipedia "Talk" page entry one of Bart's group referred to Dan Stain as a "JFK Historian"...Dane is an internet troll who specializes in making mocking photoshop images and videos of credible researchers...
The Wikipedia mod also lacks the research sophistication to realize the Oswald with a Coke that Mrs Reid saw might very likely be a second Oswald...
In no way do I back the Wikipedia mods...They banned me after I posted on the Hendrix "Talk" page that there was good evidence for Jimi's murder...However in this case they are correct about the nutty Prayer Man claim...
The Prayer Man nuts tried to enter the Prayer Man claim on the Wikipedia Kennedy Assassination article...It got deleted...Here's what the Wikipedia moderator wrote:
" The page reflects the conclusions, in large part, of the official investigations. The "Prayer Man' claim is an example of a claim (Like the Hickey "shot" at Kennedy) which is based on an extremely flimsy piece of evidence (a very blurry image of a man in the TSBD doorway in the Couch film who, the author and others claim, was Oswald) which requires the reams of evidence placing Oswald elsewhere to be discredited, dismissed or ignored. So, while Roy Truly positively identified Oswald as the man Baker stopped (Truly, after all, hired him) and confirmed the location as the 2nd floor, he is therefore a liar and somehow involved with the "conspiracy". Baker's statement that the person he encountered was on the 3rd or 4th floor and that the man was "about 30" is elevated to the level of Gospel truth that this "couldn't" have been Oswald (who was 24), despite both Baker and Truly saying they encountered the same man. The fact that Baker had never set foot in the building and therefore could easily be unsure of where the encounter took place (he didn't specify a floor after all) is neither here nor there in the realm of conspiracy theorists. Of course the fact that Oswald HIMSELF confirmed the encounter...well, that was planted evidence, he never said that, etc. Others who saw Oswald leave the area and go through the office with a bottle of Coke are also dismissed, as is the fact the numerous employees who would have seen Oswald on the steps but never identified him...well, they must have been part of the conspiracy as well!
In other words, this is not simply a "new" theory, it is a "fringe" theory as it dismisses, out of hand, positive, corroborating evidence in order to accept flimsy evidence placing Oswald elsewhere. It more properly resides on the conspiracy theory page. "
While I agree with the Wikipedia moderator that the theory is bunk I disagree with his logic...I think Baker fudged the location of Oswald because he was trying to cover-up the fact Oswald was in the second floor lunch room...This Wikipedia moderator is oblivious to the fact it is possible Baker also saw another person on the 3rd floor landing...His best point is that other employees would have seen Oswald on the front steps if he was out there...
What you are seeing is the damage that the DiEugenio-approved Prayer Man nuts are causing the credible assassination research community...They are giving official story backers the chance to dismiss credible researchers out of hand and associate them with nut researchers like Bart Kamp...
In the same Wikipedia "Talk" page entry one of Bart's group referred to Dan Stain as a "JFK Historian"...Dane is an internet troll who specializes in making mocking photoshop images and videos of credible researchers...
The Wikipedia mod also lacks the research sophistication to realize the Oswald with a Coke that Mrs Reid saw might very likely be a second Oswald...
In no way do I back the Wikipedia mods...They banned me after I posted on the Hendrix "Talk" page that there was good evidence for Jimi's murder...However in this case they are correct about the nutty Prayer Man claim...
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Re: Prayer Man Not Allowed On Wikipedia
Wed 06 Mar 2019, 4:50 pm
So even Wikipedia has banned Doyle. There seems to be hardly any place where he has not been banned. Recently Jim D also banned him on his page.
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