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Post by Paul Francisco Paso on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 3:06 am

Not a single shot from the TSBD. Nada. Zero. That place was the dumping ground for shells and a  rifle to divert attention from possibly the Daltex building. If I were any of those dudes below the 6th floor window I'd leave a shit stain if I knew someone was shooting a floor above me. It is absurd to believe their fucking nonsense account. 150% agreement with Ed on this.
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Post by Mick Purdy on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 9:26 am

Ed wrote: 


No bullet originated its flight from the TSBD snipers nest or any other window in the building.




100% agreed. Proved beyond a reasonable doubt. Next!
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Post by Mick Purdy on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 10:00 am

Paul Francisco Paso wrote:Not a single shot from the TSBD. Nada. Zero. That place was the dumping ground for shells and a  rifle to divert attention from possibly the Daltex building. If I were any of those dudes below the 6th floor window I'd leave a shit stain if I knew someone was shooting a floor above me. It is absurd to believe their fucking nonsense account. 150% agreement with Ed on this.


Yep, could'nt agree more.

In my work I've filmed rifle fire both exterior and interior. Let me say that I would hazard a wild guess that had the rifle shots come from within the TSBD, then the three stooges would've been down to the first floor quicker than you could say "I've shit my pants"

IMO anyone inside the building including people on the first floor would've heard and smelled those shots if they really had originated from inside....just my opinion of course.
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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Fri 21 Apr 2017, 1:24 pm

....
Mick Purdy wrote:And it sounded-
it even shook the 
building, the side we 
were on cement fell 
on my head.



Ed stop it!


I can't take any more of this comedy.

I wish I could Mick.
Quoting BRW is like Quoting Mary Bledsoe

And thats no laugh.

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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Mon 22 May 2017, 6:50 pm

Vinny wrote:This guy wanted to visit Dallas and show Marina the PM image.Wonder if he did manage to do so.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/dallas/2636521-safe-affordable-living-arrangement-few-weeks-3.html
Can you grab the pic and post it Vin?
Thgx, Ed
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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Mon 22 May 2017, 8:06 pm

Aloha,
I once in an other forum, many moons ago, I was asked how I knew the TSBD's self closing door was required by code.

This person didn't know me.
They sure didn't know my Dad.

Building managers like Truly do not waste money on expensive fire rated self closing doors unless they are required, not for sound. But by fire and safety, better known as The Building and Exit Code 1963.
I found an online version of the '64 book, almost exactly the same as 1963
But in '63 your fire escape routes into interior stairway through firewalls had to be of the Self or Automatic Closing devices or hinges.

Here for you ROKCers is the code that required Truly and Byrd etc to pay for that door so the building could get an occupancy permit.
Also when you will see photos inside the with exit signs, that is code enforced.
All these come with a FINE and MISDEMEANOR if you don't abide.
So spare me the noise concern.
If it was noise then they had already told people to not use the stairs so why waste time and money on a self closing door for what? No one on those rickety old stairs that probably ...didn't meet code ... and had to be updated for the building to keep its occupancy permit.
Or the old Byrd could have gotten a waiver or an allowance for some other measure like fire escapes etc.
And these were times when agencies and groups were jockeying for national standards which would become IBC or International Building Codes. I recall Dad having all the Oklahoma fire training manuals.
I have almost all the books of which is a 60's building code enforcement book, if I can find it I will also scan its relevant pages.
But this is just to show a internet warrior what real research can garner with dedication and tenacity.
Anyways here is the Building Exit Code 1964
Cheers, Ed Cool

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Post by Vinny on Tue 23 May 2017, 1:42 am

Ed. Ledoux wrote:
Vinny wrote:This guy wanted to visit Dallas and show Marina the PM image.Wonder if he did manage to do so.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/dallas/2636521-safe-affordable-living-arrangement-few-weeks-3.html
Can you grab the pic and post it Vin?
Thgx, Ed
https://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t1364-a-prayer-man-presentation-in-plain-sight

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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Tue 23 May 2017, 2:39 pm

Whom was the BUILDING OFFICIAL for 411 Elm in 1963?
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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Tue 23 May 2017, 2:57 pm

City of Dallas Building Inspector Record Books (MA 86.9)
1905 - March 1970. The volumes contain handwritten records of building permits issued.
Building permit records will give you a date of construction and any significant changes or
additions. They may also give you the name of the architect or contractor responsible for the
building. Permits were not required until 1925, but may have been issued earlier. You may
also wish to contact the City of Dallas, Building Inspection Division, Central Files--located
in the Oak Cliff Municipal Center. The telephone number is (214) 948-4318. They have
microfilm of some (but not all!) of the actual building permits

https://dallaslibrary2.org/dallashistory/docs/historicBuildingResearchGuidelines.pdf
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Cheers, Ed
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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Sun 28 May 2017, 9:36 am

Chose

Elects

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Post by steely dan on Wed 14 Jun 2017, 4:45 am

Do you think your FOO ban might have anything to do with not using your real name on that forum, Mr Kangaroo?
I read your FB post were you listed the T&C's of the forum and you seem to have missed that one.
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Post by greg parker on Wed 14 Jun 2017, 8:29 am

Kangaroo wrote:Bart:


          The Darnell-Murray-Willis 8 images are sterile neutral photographic evidence. Totally objective, impartial, and taken from the generally accepted evidence. They are totally 'supported' in and of themselves. 



           Why can't we post them and let people see for themselves? 



           I saw ROKC post an invitation to this forum on the Education Forum where they said people were invited to come debate their Prayer Man evidence freely and would not be discriminated against or automatically disallowed. Greg invited me here from my Prayer Woman page. If we restrict this issue to just the Willis 8-Murray-Darnell juxtaposition why would that be automatically disallowed? What specifically is unsound or disallowable about 3 photographs?
I never invited you Brian. You were ranting about being blocked from joining. I simply and truthfully told you that was not the case - that no one is rejected in the process of joining. I then offered to help with what was in reality a technical issue. That failed. You have since obviously used another email address as I recommended.

Joining and staying are two separate things.  Those looking to join are given fair warning at the top of the page:

Before joining, please consider if this is the place for you. We are looking for those who believe that the case should be reopened. That eliminates all who believe the case was closed with the issuance of the Warren Commission Report. Above and beyond that, we are looking for those with the capacity and willingness to think outside the boxnot those who look no further than opportunities to spin wheels or score points. If this is you, welcome. If it is not, then your time here may be limited.

We all agree that the best opportunity to get the case reopened is by getting a clear scan from the Weigman or Darnell films. You are on record as stating that you don't believe there is any need to have the films released for such purposes. Is that still your opinion?

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Post by greg parker on Wed 14 Jun 2017, 9:42 am

PS The Kangaroo is on our coat of arms. You can not co-opt it or have it be made an object of ridicule. It is akin to flag burning. I have therefore changed your username to something native to Florida. I likewise have changed your avatar as it seemed to depict a drunken kangaroo shooter.

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Post by greg parker on Wed 14 Jun 2017, 11:32 am

Brian,

I have admins and mods who have carte blanch permission to administer and moderate as they see fit. This is not a kindergarten playground, nor a place where detractors can come and take a dump. 

Furthermore, I never invited you. You were making a false claim about being blocked from joining. Clearly since you did eventually manage to join, you should apologize for the false claims.

I don't think I can be clearer than to say that this place is dedicated to having the case reopened. We have identified what we believe to be the best way to do that - i.e. clear scans of one or both of the Weigman and Darnell films.

Your previous position was completely at odds with the above. I can only take your refusal to answer whether that is still your position as an indication that it is.

This is simply not the right forum for you. It is not a debate club. No one has the time or inclination to correct a figment of your imagination again and again and again, and nor do you even support our identified path to our stated goal.

You were given an opportunity to get on board. You didn't take it.

Your time here is up.

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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Thu 15 Jun 2017, 9:08 pm

A fool studies the worst frame whilst ignoring the best evidence
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