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rifle - Ruth Paine's Calendar - Page 2 Empty 2 rifles ordred?

on Thu 30 Jun 2011, 1:03 am
Great work all!!! Still trying to digest but thought I'd throw in aother scenraio for consideration...

It's concerning the 2 rifles - one 36" and one 40" - could 2 have actually been ordered - One in March and one in October?

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Further thoughts on this scenario - it could explain the rifle lengths discrepancy - there is a school of thought that says the 40" rifle (or carbine...whichever) wasn't available in March 1963 and was only available after June 1963 (IIRC). In this case, what happened to the 36" rifle? Would the same ammo have been used for either length? This would obviously impact the BYPs as well!!!...


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rifle - Ruth Paine's Calendar - Page 2 Empty Re: Ruth Paine's Calendar

on Fri 01 Jul 2011, 6:54 am
ianlloyd wrote:Great work all!!! Still trying to digest but thought I'd throw in aother scenraio for consideration...

It's concerning the 2 rifles - one 36" and one 40" - could 2 have actually been ordered - One in March and one in October?

EDIT:

Further thoughts on this scenario - it could explain the rifle lengths discrepancy - there is a school of thought that says the 40" rifle (or carbine...whichever) wasn't available in March 1963 and was only available after June 1963 (IIRC). In this case, what happened to the 36" rifle? Would the same ammo have been used for either length? This would obviously impact the BYPs as well!!!...

Ian,

Richard's having some computer problems, but I'm sure this line of thought would be of interest to him.

My thoughts... I've already considered the possibility of a rifle purchase in October. Your memory about when the 40" became available adds some weight to that line of thought. Would it be possible to check your memory on that?

This may also answer some questions about the bag. Would a 36" rifle (broken down or otherwise) fit in the bag now in evidence? IOW, was the bag made for a 36" rifle to begin with?

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rifle - Ruth Paine's Calendar - Page 2 Empty Rifle(s) and the bag

on Fri 01 Jul 2011, 6:00 pm
Hi Greg,

Yes, I've considered this previously - Assuming the bag was made to carry the rifle (still a big assumption IMO!), my thoughts initially were that a 36" rifle was ordered and expected to be delivered and the bag was made for such a weapon. I don't suppose whoever received the 40" weapon realised it was 40", not 36" long (I doubt they would have measured it and the difference between a 36" and 40" weapon isn't quite so obvious) perhaps until trying to fit it into the bag ("Holy sh*t!! My rifle doesn't fit in the bag!!!"???). This is where the WC becomes seriously unravelled then, having to get the rifle to have to be dimantled to fit into the bag. IIRC, the bag is 38" long, so it seems a 36" rifle would fit into it fairly comfortably.

Regarding the 40" weapon only being available from June - I've read quite a lot about this on other forums (Ed & JFKassassination). Some arguments seem compelling, some not so.

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