Was truly the source of the police description?

Wed 17 Aug 2016, 7:31 pm

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One of Greg's thread from the webs forum.

Was truly the source of the police description?

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Credit to Johnny Hartley for finding this:

KING, Glen D Press Counsel to Chief Curry, statement to American Society of Newspaper Editors, Vol. XX, pp. 453-69.

"We were fortunate that we were able to talk to a person at the location of the events who gave us a description of a person, an employee who, he said, had been in the building prior to the assassination but was not there following it.’
"We broadcast this description on our police radio within a very few minutes after the assassination. The description was of a slender white male, about 30 years of age, about five feet ten, weighing about 165 pounds. at the time he was seen, he was carrying something that looked like either a 30-30 rifle or some type of a Winchester.”

http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/K%20Disk/King%20Glen%20D%20Captain/Item%2001.pdf

Truly admitted he gave them a description - but not until much later:
Mr. TRULY. Lee Oswald. I said, "Have you seen him around lately," and he said no.

So Mr. Campbell is standing there, and I said, "I have a boy over here missing. I don't know whether to report it or not." Because I had another one or two out then. I didn't know whether they were all there or not. He said, "What do you think"? And I got to thinking. He said, "Well, we better do it anyway." It was so quick after that.
So I picked the phone up then and called Mr. Aiken, at the warehouse, and got the boy's name and general description and telephone number and address at Irving.

The description on his employment form was: weight 150 - height 5' 9". No age or date of birth.

Yet the description is almost a perfect match for Baker's 3rd or 4 th floor man. Weight 165 - height 5' 10" 30 years of age - dark hair and wearing a light brown jacket.

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I know Sean came to the conclusion that there was no one on the 3rd or 4th floor that Baker or Truly ran into, but I just couldn't bring myself to believe Baker had lied in his first statement.

This paints a whole new picture. That broadcast did go out - right down to the rifle. Given what King says, it had to have been Truly. And Truly was simply guessing Oswald's vital stats. Baker is immediately tapped to "confirm" that description as someone he runs into on an upper floor. Having Truly "confirm" it's an employee helps tighten the noose on Oswald with or without the description being right.

Next step was to plant a light brown jacket at the Tippit murder site - or as close as they could get on short notice!

Sean, I dips me lid again...

And another mark against Truly - the Inside Man on this.

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Sat 22 Sep 2018, 7:20 am

Mon 08 Apr 2019, 1:33 am

Mon 08 Apr 2019, 3:25 am

Was truly the source of the police description? - Page 3 LHOMan-With-Winchester

I've touched on this in the past, but a Winchester 30-30 has a distinctive look. Another carbine that looks similar is a Marlin 30-30. Short, compact with lever action.

Was truly the source of the police description? - Page 3 Win-Marlin30-30

Was truly the source of the police description? - Page 3 Win-Marlin30-30

When it comes to making a superficial, at-a-glance ID of a rifle/carbine, no person familiar with firearms would screw that up.

Mon 08 Apr 2019, 8:44 am

What sort of cop takes a description like, which the carbine indicates almost has to be the assassin, but doesn't get the witness escorted away for a formal statement - let alone do something as basic as just take a name and contact number?

And is it just coincidence that this and the actual weapon found were both carbines?

FWIW, this dude says he is 5' 9" and 165 pounds

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Mon 08 Apr 2019, 10:25 am

Unidentified person my arse. An Inspector no less! A friggin' person spotted by somebody (A Cop no less) running from the scene with a rifle and what the cop doesn't ask for more details of the witness? Seriously? See it's this sort of crap which never gets a good work over. Sawyer should have been horsewhipped if any of that is true. Unbelievable!

That APB - also unbelievable.

Mon 08 Apr 2019, 2:31 pm

Brennan wasn't the witness. He was the suspect! clown

This from a doc posted by Barto at the Head Forum.

Campbell described Brennan as a white male, 5' 9" or 5' 10", 165 pounds and about 35 years old.

Mon 08 Apr 2019, 6:01 pm

Sat 14 Sep 2019, 12:36 am

barto wrote:This is just beautiful! Roy Truly being interviewed by Roy Bode for the Odessa American in April 1964. Found by Steve Roe and posted by Denis Morissette on FB.

Brennan had a chat with Baker and Truly.....as supposedly running up those stairs like hell....where Truly could not remember where they hooked up or where Baker said they nearly bumped into each other in the vestibule.....

Then the matter of being misquoted, purely to deflect any future phone calls to the TSBD about him being a lone nut friend or commie sympathiser.

Marguerite Oswald walks in the TSBD with Altgens6 and gets shown the door by RT? WOW! Would have loved to have seen that!

Truly lied to the WC like there was no tomorrow.

Looks like Ochus Campbell's statement by Jim Leavelle confirms this so called chat between them, he lumps Baker and Brennan together.
"A uniform officer.......