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The Fez and reality get an introduction

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The Fez and reality get an introduction

Post by greg parker on Fri 17 Mar 2017, 10:47 am

The Fez attempts to place "Lee" in the US while "Harvey's is still in the USSR, and that the two remained on the loose in the US up until the assassination

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/23525-two-marguerite-oswalds-new-details/&do=findComment&comment=347209

First witness cited - Marita Lorenz.  I think that's all I need to say on that witness.
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From the records - the Fez reverts to the TEC records showing Oswald took tests at Fort Worth in April '62 - impossible since he never returned until June. This has been discredited already on the Ed Forum. It was a simple clerical error and corrected in those same records.
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Second witness - Lynn Davis Curry - Curry was a cab driver in Augusta who claims he picked up a passenger in November 1962. This Oswald - against all that we know about Oswald - told Curry all about himself - all of which could be obtained from public records post assassination. Curry claimed Oswald had told him to write down his name because he would be hearing the name in future. Curry claims he wrote the name down on his trip sheet.

What the Fez will never tell you is that the FBI obtained Curry's trip sheets for the relevant period and failed to find a trace of the name "Lee Oswald". https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=57708&relPageId=24&search=%22Lynn_Davis%20Curry%22

But now that the cat is out of the bag, the Fez will predictably claim that the FBI lied in the report. According the the Fez, the FBI always lied in these reports - except when one of their reports can be used to prop up this pile of turds. Then, they are just incompetent in the cover-up.
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Third witness: Sheriff Thompson of Monroe County, Florida. This time the Fez helpfully provides a link to his evidence. But guess what? The document doesn't mention anything about any Sheriff Thompson - what it describes is the effort to get to the bottom of local rumors about Oswald refueling a boat in 61. All the hallmarks of an urban myth here.
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11349&relPageId=2

The Fez then moves on to "fake" Marguerite sightings utilizing the Armstrong tried and true method of utilizing the frail memories of witnesses as his sole source. Not even worth a second look.

How can any sane person buy into this garbage?

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Re: The Fez and reality get an introduction

Post by greg parker on Sat 18 Mar 2017, 10:49 am

The Fez has made his usual incomprehensible response.
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/23525-two-marguerite-oswalds-new-details/&do=findComment&comment=347292

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the Fez wrote:Just a simple error...  so show us the correction...  if you're talking about the mis-matched back of this application with handwriting that matches nothing else on the form which states "DATE in Fort Worth June 1962" 

It was correct by the person who wrote June, 1962. But as Tommy said and I said, your claims on this were debunked ages ago on the Ed Forum. If you think you "won" that debate, why not link to it?


The Fez wrote:And once again we find two FBI exhibits which are supposed to match, only matching at the top and not matching on the bottom...  Who wrote the comment Tracy? and why don't dups of the same exhibit match? you can go ask Parker.. we'll wait.
Why are they supposed to match? you never do get around to explaining why and as it is impossible to read either, I guess you can make any half-assed and ill-explained claim you want to try and confuse readers into thinking you have made a point so deep and meaningful it is beyond normal human ken. Reality bites. You're just an idiot. As once again shown in your next few statements.


the Fez wrote:Moving on now to Curry...  This is where you and Parker and I split.  You and he will take any blank piece of paper with reference to the FBI as COLD HARD FACT...  so if there was another mention of Oswald in New Orleans between Feb and Mar 1963 from this same report, can we take that as another COLD HARD FACT?
Nothing but blather springing from crippled epistemology



the Fez wrote:SV T-1 observes someone he claims resembles Oswald between Feb 15 and Mar 15 1963...
Where was Oswald living at this time Tracy? 
Someone observed someone who resembled someone? That's your evidence?
cheers


the Fez wrote:When a witness states "He told me his name was Lee Oswald", and then confirms that the person was the man Ruby killed - eg the man they saw on TV...  reliable?

Jesus H Christ. These types of reports are a dime a dozen in any major crime. Can anyone  corroborate his claims? No. Is there any physical evidence for his claims? No. 


the Fez wrote:Well look at that...  the FBI kicks into SOP mode and begins the process of discrediting the witness...
Mental problems remains a favorite of theirs...  if you go to the rest of the report Curry states that this person insisted that he write his name down, Lee Oswald...  and of course original documents like trip sheets NEVER get altered in the possession of the FBI... would you like a few examples or are you familiar?
Are you claiming that the FBI made others say Curry was a fabricator? Do you have proof of altered documents - no - not just your uninformed opinion - PROOF via an expert in the field. that really would be something... proof being offered instead of pulling stuff out of your ass?


the Fez in full confusion mode wrote:PARKER:  Third witness: Sheriff Thompson of Monroe County, Florida. This time the Fez helpfully provides a link to his evidence. But guess what? The document doesn't mention anything about any Sheriff Thompson - what it describes is the effort to get to the bottom of local rumors about Oswald refueling a boat in 61. All the hallmarks of an urban myth here. 

I am talking about Sheriff Thompson's statements.  TRACY, where in WCD953 as offered by Parker, does it offer the Sheriff's statement?

The footnote for SHERIFF THOMPSON (as opposed to "Resident") is 136 Report of John A. Marshall, Secret Service 2/5/64.

It's not there, so why is Parker using yet a different person's account of HUFFMAN.  Who is JAMES STEVENS who is relaying 2nd hand info from his wife who heard a rumor...   Again Tracy, what does this response have to do with Sheriff THOMPSON and do you even bother reading the sources you assume provides a rebuttal, or just copy past and hope?

This is what I was responding to:


the Fez, upstream in the Ed Forum thread wrote:Sheriff Thompson, of Monroe County (Key West), Florida, recalled that "Lee Harvey Oswald" fueled up his boat in Key West shortly after the Bay of Pigs (April '61, They return to USA in June 1962 ). Oswald didn't have the funds to pay for the fuel and telephoned someone in Dallas, Texas. Within two hours a man named "Ruben" arrived and paid for the fuel.136  William Huffman was the attendant on duty when Lee Oswald, accompanied by 4 or 5 Cubans, docked at the Sands Marine Fueling Station at Stock Island, Key West, Florida in a 43-foot Chris Craft diesel boat.  

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=11349&relPageId=2 
I'll type slowly for you. What the fuck are you blathering about this time? When you write a block of text like that and follow it with a link, the reader should expect that the link will reference the point or person being discussed in said block of text. I merely pointed out that your link mentions nothing about any "Sheriff Thompson".  What it does describe is exactly what I said - the running down of a rumor which had all the hallmarks of urban legend.  You provided the link and then whinge and whine that I reference it!

If this is your "Sheriff Thompson" and if you are citing him as a witness, why am I not surprised you believe anything from a crooked cop?
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=71898&relPageId=10&search=%22sheriff_thompson%22

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