Back Yard Photography

Almost 40 pages of analysis on the BYP from 1978. With thanks to Malcolm Blunt.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/16qHfeQrQZkK0gD-KQy_-E25pb-Vpxrsv/view?usp=sharing

Cecil Kirk
Thx to Malcolm Blunt.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YNmBrasPAXg7ppCSUzFv5N-vPHenKIwK/view?usp=drivesdk

Malcolm Thomson



https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OJoabS4os_qCmbq_gG75pzyAN3--B5vB/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AGdPG74LhaKhjLx8B_juuNWWMS0OhuDC/view?usp=sharing

Does anyone have a clue as to when the information regarding the BYP's was released to the press by the Dallas Police Department? Specifically the time and the date. Any help with this would be appreciated.

https://youtu.be/7b3YJaMhmBw?t=2594

24/11/63 ABC News. Mentions the BYP's at approximately 11.42 am




Time 43:14

Good catch on the evidence:
PHYSICAL EVIDENCE
wife said he owns rifle similar to assassin, order in hand writing of Lee, 12.78 cent rifle is missing, police have a rifle used by assassin, paraffin test showed weapon fired by Lee day of assassination
Police have photos of Oswald posing with pistol and rifle (BYP's)
Letter to Connally to use any means
Was employed at TSBD

I've been wondering...
If no one saw him at the time of the shooting how are they confirming he was in the building at that time? (Lee's Alibi!?!?)

Thx,
Ed

Yes Ed, the Dallas Cops and Wade constantly informed and gave assurances to the press during the first 36 hours post assassination that they did not want to divulge a lot of the evidence as Oswald would be going to trial in January. They failed miserably on that score. By late Sunday evening after Oswald had been murdered there was - as I quote - a "resume" of evidence supplied to the media. All the marquee stuff. Rifle, gun, sack, Oswald's escape route, transfers, eyewitnesses, BYP's, Communist literature, cameras, and along with the two murder charges filed on Friday evening - the whole shebang. Seems that was the way the Dallas cops worked - charge 'em first and then look for the evidence. 

Jesse Curry 23/11/63 Press conference.

Media questions to Curry about the BYP's.

@ 27:54 - 32:15

and again @ 35:40

Curry at 36:00 when questioned if Lee will be transferred under heavy guard, says its Sheriff Decker's responsibility,
(as he will pick up Oswald here.)

Well how did that turn out?

Curry didn't know how many photos were found
or Oswald's reaction to them.

Knew rifle went to po box but didn't know if A Hidell was on box to receive it.... oops.

Can Curry tell when the POST OFFICE  received the carton and when it was received at Dallas Post Office and also when it was picked up and by whom? Curry might sense he's being played if he questions these questions he gets from reporters... eventually he admits as much in his book.

Forget the photos... you cannot take a rifle pic without a rifle.
Curry is a good business man and seems to understand this is not his business

Yes, Ed, the Chief was not the Chief we all thought he was. In fact the Chief didn't believe he was the Chief at all. Fritz was runnin' that show no doubt about it.
Interestingly the Chief who knows very little knew enough to know which side the bread was buttered on.  Kliens mail order slip for the rifle was a tip off he says, FBI were the rats he says, but more importantly Chieftain also mentions a tip off came through his own minions too. Wow!
Curry knew the score as early as Saturday morning in my view - played by the Feds and his own Captain Fritz and Co. Wonder if Michael or Ruth somehow obliged with the tip off?

Short list of rifle tipsters:

George de Mohrenschildt or Jeanne.
Ruth and or Mike Paine
Post Office Inspector
FBI
DPD

Of course the tipster is a liar but that doesn't narrow the list.

Cheers
Ed

Ed.Ledoux wrote:Short list of rifle tipsters:

George de Mohrenschildt or Jeanne.
Ruth and or Mike Paine
Post Office Inspector
FBI
DPD

Of course the tipster is a liar but that doesn't narrow the list.

Cheers
Ed

Good list Ed. Trying to narrow down that list by only including the liars is gonna be hard.

Ed.Ledoux wrote:Good catch on the evidence:
PHYSICAL EVIDENCE
wife said he owns rifle similar to assassin, order in hand writing of Lee, 12.78 cent rifle is missing, police have a rifle used by assassin, paraffin test showed weapon fired by Lee day of assassination
Police have photos of Oswald posing with pistol and rifle (BYP's)
Letter to Connally to use any means
Was employed at TSBD

I've been wondering...
If no one saw him at the time of the shooting how are they confirming he was in the building at that time? (Lee's Alibi!?!?)

Thx,
Ed

Oswald did state in the corridor that he worked in that building at the time.

Yes weve all seen him in corridor, but did police also ask that question and get that answer?
We know his Alibi was stepping outside to watch P. Parade / Out in front with Shelley.
Both are indicative of being Outside.
Naturally though no one else worked in the building. Surely none vouched for Lee.
They couldn't if they weren't looking at him at the time....
at the time they too were in the building. Hmmm that doesn't sound good for anyone to say, and none did. Well except Campbell etc ooops.

Everyone besides Dougherty Piper West, were "outside" , only Lee was inside (Upstairs) per the Warren Cremation.
The others dont care about architecture.
They distanced themselves from inside and Lee in one word Outside.
We all know how this turns out.
Films.
Notes.
PM..

So its still Lee saying he was in the building and no one else could say he was or wasn't.
See the dilemma?

Wink wink

Interesting.
So just the cover sheet
No document.
Thx B

Need to contact NARA and put in a request. It is supposedly open in full....

Interesting technical document on the BYP. Thanks to Joe Backes.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=148284#relPageId=1&search=report_of%20calibration%20of%20620%20imperial%20reflex%20camera

It is fascinating to think that whoever snapped those backyard photographs of the figure in the backyard holding a Mannlicher Carcano rifle and a gun in the figures holster did so with incredible foresight. These photographs were taken either in late March early April or in September sometime according to the Dallas equinox. To think it's possible that a photograph was taken at either of these times of a man holding these two weapons who would later be accused of two murders, one with a Carcano rifle and the other with a pistol is mind boggling. Whoever planted the two weapons had to have knowledge of the BYP's IMO.

Perfect time to have the baby outside.... just like Neely St. "balcony pictures" of the baby.
Which are horrible in all reproductions I've seen, and nothing like the BYPs especially DeMohrenschildts

Whoever picked up the weapons is the one with some knowledge fore or otherwise.

I do know when exactly when the photos were made.
It sure wasn't right after Rose n Stovall(?) take items from Paines on 11/23.
It was when they took items without a warrant on 11/22.
These are bogus items meant to elicit a response.
BAM!
Cheers,
Ed




Does the time the BYPs are taken correspond to any letters sent by Marina to relatives?

Oswald said they were fake, he knew how, and he'd show how it was done. If you backtrack to April when they were supposedly taken, they knew what was going to be the throw down evidence 7 months later.

I've always thought too that the photos were overcooked. It wasn't enough to just have him with the rifle - they also threw in the pistol and the left-leaning papers. I really believe they knew that they had to go all out with these photos because there was obviously going to be no photographic proof [other than the photos] of Oswald pulling the trigger up on the sixth floor.

I think the timing of the BYP's having been taken is in the detail. The trees plants and the shadows tell us either late March early April or Late September early October. That's almost a given. So Ed, you're right the rest of the puzzle is all about the clues left elsewhere as to who had the opportunity and the motive to snap these pics. The place was unoccupied - for many months and we know that Ruth, Michael, Marina, and Gary Taylor had the opportunity.