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Post by greg parker on Fri 20 Jul 2012, 1:48 pm

From Mary Ferrell's database:


LAST LEE FIRST HERBERT MID/AKA LEON
ADDRESS 1026 N. Beckley, Dallas, TX; 1993: Garrison, TX (near LA-TX line)
'PHONE
SOURCES CD 86, pp. 559-565; CD 206, p. 140
COMMENT Claims FBI interviewed him soon after assassination.

Lee's obit shows he was a navy veteran who, for 30 years, lay flooring (6th floor anyone!) for a living until joining the Jefferson Texas Police Department
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/shreveporttimes/obituary.aspx?n=herbert-quotleonquot-lee&pid=128925162#fbLoggedOut

Of some interest may be that he was buried by the Life Tabernacle Church - whose members have famously been kidnapped by cult deprogrammers.

Questions in my mind:

Is it significant that he has the surname Lee, given Oswald allegedly boarded there using the name, O.H. Lee"?

Is his aka of "Leon" significant (given any real or purported "Leon" Oswald sightings)?

FBI interview with Lee shows he lived at the boarding house for 4 or 5 weeks in October and moved out on Nov 1. This means he (HLL) possibly obtained a room around the time that Oswald allegedly made his first attempt to room there (a time LHO was also supposedly in Mexico City). Was Mrs Johnson confusing the two when recalling late Sept or early Oct?

And if it was LHO who tried to room there in late Sept or early Oct, under what name would he have registered, given that when he was turned down, he allegedly went and boarded under his real name before returning to Beckley and boarding under an alias?


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Post by greg parker on Sun 22 Jul 2012, 9:35 pm

Posted at the Ed forum:

Lee,

there surely can't be any doubt that something is wrong with the presented picture. Whether that includes Oswald never having lived at this address remains to be seen, but like you, I think there is evidence pointing that way.

Here are some further points:

Yes, according to Lee, he and Watson moved out on Nov 1.

But according to this document, Watson was living at Beckley as of Nov 22:
http://www.maryferre...sPageId=993199#

As Lee claimed he didn't recall Oswald, but claimed Watson had actually conversed with him, I have been trying to find an FBI report on Watson, but haven't located one as yet.

I could be wrong, but I don't think the guest register exists in the volumes. IIRC, the names listed were obtained by private researchers in Dallas.

Here is the only documentary evidence for Oswald staying there: and it looks like that is possibly the only part of the registry in the evidence.
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh20/html/WH_Vol20_0148b.htm
The document looks like it could easily have been written in one sitting, but that of course is just the eyeballing of a non-expert. I say it because it has a "sameness" about it beyond what you'd see if it was in the same hand, but written on different days. Also in writing on different lines in one sitting, I believe you are more apt to get that slant you see in especially the "paid" column.

There was an Oswald sighting at a gas station near the apartments - but it turned out to be another lodger there. Can't recall his name, but none of the names on the lists produced so far ring a bell.

I started a thread on Herbert Lee recently here http://reopenkennedy...erbert-leon-lee

There is more that is potentially important, but it needs further nailing down.

The "more" being referred to was...  


http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/textsearch/advancedResults.do?queryStr=|james+watson|&singleDocType=DOCUMENT&startIndex=15

So Oswald had the phone number  of a bus driver on the Dallas to Shreveport run who at that time was sharing his home with his cousin, one Joe Cody of the DPD and friend of Ruby - and a "Jack Cody" was another boarder at the Johnson boarding house - where the house keeper was a sister to a Ruby friend.  
And finally, to complete the circle, Herbert "Leon" Lee was from Shreveport (per his obit) and would go on to become a cop in Jefferson County, Texas after being a floor layer for 30 years.

Here's what I think is at least one possible scenario: Mrs Johnson's claim that Oswald tried to rent a room from her in late Sept or early Oct is incorrect. It was Herbert Lee who rented the room. His claim that he and James Watson left there on Nov 1 is also incorrect because the FBI has Watson still at the boarding house immediately after the assassination. I think Herbert Lee disappeared at that time until the heat died down and some "evidence" was manufactured to put Oswald there. Then he contacted the authorities to give his statement. How Jack and Joe Cody and the Dallas to Shreveport bus driver fit in to the story, is yet another head-scratcher.


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Post by greg parker on Mon 08 Jul 2013, 2:21 pm

greg parker wrote:Posted at the Ed forum:

Lee,

there surely can't be any doubt that something is wrong with the presented picture. Whether that includes Oswald never having lived at this address remains to be seen, but like you, I think there is evidence pointing that way.

Here are some further points:

Yes, according to Lee, he and Watson moved out on Nov 1.

But according to this document, Watson was living at Beckley as of Nov 22:
http://www.maryferre...sPageId=993199#

As Lee claimed he didn't recall Oswald, but claimed Watson had actually conversed with him, I have been trying to find an FBI report on Watson, but haven't located one as yet.

I could be wrong, but I don't think the guest register exists in the volumes. IIRC, the names listed were obtained by private researchers in Dallas.

Here is the only documentary evidence for Oswald staying there:
http://www.history-m...Vol20_0148b.htm and it looks like that is possibly the only part of the registry in the evidence.

The document looks like it could easily have been written in one sitting, but that of course is just the eyeballing of a non-expert. I say it because it has a "sameness" about it beyond what you'd see if it was in the same hand, but written on different days. Also in writing on different lines in one sitting, I believe you are more apt to get that slant you see in especially the "paid" column.

There was an Oswald sighting at a gas station near the apartments - but it turned out to be another lodger there. Can't recall his name, but none of the names on the lists produced so far ring a bell.

I started a thread on Herbert Lee recently here http://reopenkennedy...erbert-leon-lee

There is more that is potentially important, but it needs further nailing down.

The "more" being referred to was...  


http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/T%20Disk/Tattler%20National/Item%2026.pdf

So Oswald had the phone number  of a bus driver on the Dallas to Shreveport run who at that time was sharing his home with his cousin, one Joe Cody of the DPD and friend of Ruby - and a "Jack Cody" was another boarder at the Johnson boarding house - where the house keeper was a sister to a Ruby friend.  

And finally, to complete the circle, Herbert "Leon" Lee was from Shreveport (per his obit) and would go on to become a cop in Jefferson County, Texas after being a floor layer for 30 years.

Here's what I think is at least one possible scenario: Mrs Johnson's claim that Oswald tried to rent a room from her in late Sept or early Oct is incorrect. It was Herbert Lee who rented the room. His claim that he and James Watson left there on Nov 1 is also incorrect because the FBI has Watson still at the boarding house immediately after the assassination. I think Herbert Lee disappeared at that time until the heat died down and some "evidence" was manufactured to put Oswald there. Then he contacted the authorities to give his statement. How Jack and Joe Cody and the Dallas to Shreveport bus driver fit in to the story, is yet another head-scratcher.
Firstly, sorry about the links in the above piece. Can't re find the ones not working and the thread I took this from at the Ed Forum seems to have disappeared.

Have just been reading about Barry Ernest's attempt to interview Kenneth Cody on behalf of Penn Jones. Jones apparently had Cody pegged as the pilot for a "getaway plane". Cody denied having a pilot's license and also denied ever knowing Oswald. Barry seems to have come away from the interview pretty well convinced that Jones was barking up the wrong tree. Unfortunately, the testy Cody cut the interview short, as he was trying to get his bus route under way, so no chance to ask whether he was related to Joe Cody, or knew anything at all about a "Jack Cody" living in a N Beckley boarding house. He (Cody), did say he had some real estate on the market and that Oswald may have had his number for that reason.

As it turned out, Joe Cody was interviewed for "No More Silence" (p476) and stated that Kenneth was his uncle. Joe mistakenly believed that Oswald had Kenneth's name and number in his notebook - but it was only the number. Joe confirmed that Kenneth was a pretty good carpenter and used to buy homes in Oak Cliff and fix them up and rent them out, and Oswald may have noted it to phone for a room. 

I think that's a reasonable explanation. However, on p469, Cody stated that he owned a plane...  so either he, or someone close to him, must have had a pilot license.

I wonder if this is the same Jack Cody as at N. Beckley?
Scroll to page 6... "well known atheist, Jack Cody..."
http://scholarship.rice.edu/bitstream/handle/1911/66644/thr19731108.pdf?sequence=1

Back to Herbert "Leon" Lee...

As noted, he was buried by the Life Tabernacle Church... regarded in some quarters as a cult.


The Abundant Life Church building was occupied in its latter years by Oak Cliff Christian Church aka Revival Tabernacle Church.
I can't say for sure that any of these churches are connected... but that is how it appears.

Here's one church which combines the names... "The Invocation was given by Tom Flannagan of the Abundant Tabernacle Life Church".
http://www.andoverks.com/Archive.aspx?ADID=88&PREVIEW=YES

Is it possible then, that Herbert "Leon" Lee was a member of the Abundant Life Church

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A completely off-the-wall explanation for "FR 55591" being written in Oswald's book... it was not anyone's phone number... "FR" also stands for "Federal Register" -- a daily government publication listing all changes and proposals for changes in agency rules and regulations...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Register

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Post by greg parker on Tue 09 Jul 2013, 9:07 am

robert newell wrote:Smile 
Thanks Greg-topics like this really keep us long time lurkers going!!!

Thanks Robert.

I do think the number was written because of a room to rent. Written twice on separate pages possibly because Cody had two separate rooms at different addresses for rent and Oswald saw both, and noted both numbers, not realizing it was actually the same number.

I don't think I could ever prove it, but Herbert Lee may have been a police informant who finally decided to wear a badge himself. Informants often played parts in major sting operations.  I just can't swallow a coincidence that big - that a "H. Lee" was living where Oswald was allegedly using the "OH Lee" alias. I do think it's telling that the FBI did not note a physical description of Lee. the photo of him previously posted looks to me like it's from the '70s or '80s and there is no reason to believe he didn't bear at least some resemblance to Oswald in '63.

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Post by greg parker on Sun 12 Oct 2014, 4:47 pm

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Re: Herbert "Leon" Lee

Post by Hasan Yusuf on Sun 22 Jan 2017, 11:35 pm

The following is an interview with Herbert Lee’s grandfather where he claimed Lee went to Dallas on or about September 1, 1963, and that he was a piano player:


http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10574&search=Hoyt_Marshall+september+1%2C+1963#relPageId=66&tab=page

Now have a read of the following keeping the above in mind:


“The House Select Committee on Assassinations turned up some fascinating coincidences that, taken together, prove nothing except Dallas at that time was a small world. Rep. Stokes reported that three Dallas police officers moved into the apartment adjacent to Ruby’s apartment.  They moved in on September 1, 1963 and moved out on October 15, 1963.  And when a combo debuted at Ruby’s Carousel Club on September 1, 1963, two of the three musicians, William Simmons (piano) and Bill Willis (drums) rented a house at 2530 West 5th Street, in Irving, Texas. Across the street, at 2515 West 5th Street, lived Mrs. Ruth Paine, who had taken in Marina Oswald and her two children. Husband Lee Oswald lived in a boarding house in Oak Cliff, but he visited his wife and children on weekends.”


http://www.evesmag.com/jfkassassination.htm

According to the following FBI report, Simmons and Willis went to work for Ruby on September 17, 1963, but who the hell knows if that is actually true or if the FBI were tweaking things:


http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10405&search=Bill_Willis+September+1%2C+1963#relPageId=559&tab=page

As we can see from Lee’s obituary, he became a cop after laying floors for over 30 years. Taking this into account with what I posted above, it reinforces my belief that Lee was some sort of informant (Greg has suggested to me he was an FBI informant). Keep in mind that the rooming house at 1026 North Beckley Avenue is alleged to have been a police safe house. I suspect that Lee went to work for Ruby with Willis and Simmons as a back-up piano player; and that he was also probably living at the apartment adjacent to Ruby’s apartment before moving into 1026 North Beckley.


Another thing to take note of is the allegation that the man known as O. H. Lee moved into 1026 North Beckley on October 14, 1963; just one day before the three Dallas Police officers are said to have moved out from the apartment adjacent to Ruby’s apartment. As Ed LeDoux discusses in the following thread at the Web’s forum, “O. H. Lee” was probably Herbert Lee who was living in room O at the rooming house; hence O. H. (Herbert) Lee.


http://www.reopenkennedycase.org/apps/forums/topics/show/13143758-beckley-back-alley-?page=2

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh20/pdf/WH20_Contents.pdf


Granted some things are just coincidences, but I am having difficulty believing that any of the above was just a coincidence.
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Re: Herbert "Leon" Lee

Post by Ed. Ledoux on Mon 23 Jan 2017, 5:45 pm

Those are some fantastic coincidences Hasan.

None of which are fictional or happenstance.
All very real and important to anyone whom really cared what happen to America on November 22nd '63


NEW STAGE FACE. . . . Herbert Leon Lee makes his debut Thursday night on the stage of the Shreveport Little Theater, playing the role of young Anthony J. Drexel Biddfe Jr., in the season's opening production, "The Happiest Millionaire." HERE OCT. 20
October 12, 1958, The Times from Shreveport, Louisiana · Page 67


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Greg,

AB Cody,
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=58560467

Birth: 
Mar. 5, 1904
Lone Oak
Hunt County
Texas, USA
Death: Oct. 4, 1962
Dallas
Dallas County
Texas, USA

Death certificate
Name: A. B. Cody
Sex: Male
Race: White
Age: 58
Birth place: Lone Oak, TX
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Retired Fire Chief for the Dallas Fire Dept.
Father: Ream Cody
Mother: No Record
Informant: Mrs. A. B. Cody
Burial: Laurel Land Memorial Park, Dallas, TX 
 
Family links: 
 Parents:
  Ream Cody (1872 - 1948)
 
 Spouse:
  Florence Davis Cody (1905 - 1993)*
 
 Children:
  Joe R Cody (1929 - 2008)*
 
 Siblings:
  Paul Cody (1900 - 1960)*
  A. B. Cody (1904 - 1962)
  Theron Ream Cody (1906 - 1990)*
  J Martin Cody (1908 - 1984)*
  Cleyopha R. Cody (1909 - 1967)*
  Kenneth Cody (1912 - 1978)*
  W. W. Cody (1913 - 2001)*
  Mattie V Moss (1916 - 2005)*
 
[size=undefined]*Calculated relationship[/size]



and I found this ... amusing?

One of Chrismon's Mexican professionals, Manuel Gonzales, firing from the fence to Kennedy's right side struck the President in the right temple killing him instantly. Gonzales and his aides returned to Fort Worth after the assassination where they remained at Tammie True's until Saturday, November 23, when they met Joe Cody, a Dallas detective who flew them to Houston. David Ferrie and Ray McKeown met Cody and the professionals at Houston International Airport and Ferrie, using a second airplane, flew them to Matamoros, Mexico. On Sunday, November 24th, Ferrie flew to Dallas where he was interviewed by newsmen. Late that night, Ferrie flew to Alexandria, Louisiana, where he was met by Coffee and Beauboeuf and they drove back to New Orleans where they were arrested by the District Attorney's Office.

.....
Two homosexuals, Breck Wall and Joe Peterson, on Saturday, November 23, 1963, at about 6:00 pm, left their rooms at the Adolphus, picked William Seymour up at the Abundant Life Temple and drove him to the Driftwood Motel in Galveston where they turned him over to David Ferrie, Robert Ray McKeown and others at about 11:00 pm. Seymour then hid out at McKeown's house in Baycliff, Texas until a few days later when he returned to his sister's home in Phoenix, Arizona. Jack Ruby called Wall in Galveston around midnight of the 23rd to check on Seymour's, alias Leon Oswald, delivery. Clifford Jones, Ed Levinson and L.J. McWillie later brought Wall and Peterson to Las Vegas where they took up residence at the Castaway Club.



and from the Sixth Floor Museum


Joe Cody

A burglary and theft detective with the Dallas Police Department in 1963, Cody went to the Texas School Book Depository after the assassination. A friend of Jack Ruby’s, Cody purchased a gun for Ruby in 1960 that Ruby later used to shoot Lee Harvey Oswald. Recorded October 11, 1999.
Mr. Cody passed away on June 28, 2008.



[url=https://muse.jhu.edu/results?section1=author&search1= Larry Sneed]Larry Sneed[/url]
From: No More Silence

In lieu of an abstract, here is a brief excerpt of the content: JOE R. CODY Detective, Bur glary and Theft Dallas Police Depar tment "After I watched it forty times, shooting him and shooting him, and after hearing the captain announce that it was Jack Ruby, it all hit me that Jack Ruby was a friend of mine and that I had bought that pistol for him, and the pistol was in my name... " Born in Dallas, Joe Cody joined the military in January 1944 and later attended North Texas State University. After playing professional sports, Cody then joined the Dallas Police Department in 1950 serving as a patrol officer until 1954, then as a detective in Narcotics and Vice. Later, he and Red Souter helped create the Criminal Intelligence Section. Cody was a detective in Burglary and Theft in 1963. I was going to work about 2:30 that day but was in the office a couple of hours early when the call came in. My partner and I had planned to go to a movie until 2:30 but we never made it. They were grabbing everybody, so we jumped in our car and arrived at the scene where Kennedy was shot and killed in just three or four minutes. By that time, it was probably ten minutes after the shooting. While we were there, I searched the plaza and found a bone lying in the gutter that apparently came out of the back of the President's head. It was mass confusion! People were spread around everywhere! Meanwhile, we were trying to find out what 468 NO MORE SILENCE was happening inside the building. My partner, Charlie Dellinger, went inside the School Book Depository and helped find the rifle. Part of the confusion at the time stemmed from the fact that there were tall buildings there. He shot the rifle from the sixth floor and there was another floor or two above that. In addition, the county jail and the post office were located there. You shoot a rifle from any of those places and you're going to get a ricochet noise or an echo. I was back at the office by 1:30 and was there when Oswald was brought in by Hill, Bentley, and McDonald from the case in Oak Cliff where he had shot the officer. I don't know how long the fight lasted over at the Texas Theater, but I understand they tried to clear everybody out of the theater. When McDonald approached Oswald, that's when he pulled the pistol and McDonald grabbed it. At that point, Oswald snapped it but McDonald had his finger on the hammer with so much pressure that it apparently just barely fell against the cap and didn't go off. McDonald got a scar on his face where he was scratched or hit by Oswald and Oswald received one from McDonald. McDonald was very strong. It was apparently a hell of a battle over there. At that time, we already had a tremendous amount of people in City Hall. Hill, Bentley, and McDonald asked, "What are we going to do with him?" And I said, "Bring him over and we'll put him in Burglary and Theft." So I talked to him and said, "Now, what is your name?" He said, "My name is Lee Harvey Oswald." "Where do you work?" He said, "Texas School Book Depository." Then it began to dawn on me what had happened when he told me where he worked. Initially, I was alone in the little interrogation room with Oswald. When he told me his name, it kind of rang a bell. The only things that he told me were his name, that he had been in the Marine Corps, his serial number, and where he lived and worked. He wasn't arrogant. In fact, he reminded me of a captured war prisoner: Just give your name, rank, and seria.l number. I was sure that he had shot the officer and was pretty sure that he was the one who had shot the President, and still am. I figured that we finally had closed the case. It was relatively simple then, but in the years since, it's gotten rather complicated. JOE R. CODY. DETECTIVE 469 It was unusual. They had tried to get him into the homicide office and they were told to go away: "We're busy! We're working! Just get the prisoner out of here!" I had three officers guarding...
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Post by Hasan Yusuf on Mon 23 Jan 2017, 11:36 pm

Ed Ledoux wrote:Those are some fantastic coincidences Hasan. 

Yes they are, Ed. I think there can be no doubt now that "O. H. Lee" was really Herbert Lee living in room O; as you already pointed out. Kudos to you for your research into this.
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Post by Hasan Yusuf on Mon 23 Jan 2017, 11:38 pm

P. S. It's time for everyone to stop harping on about Oswald living at 1026 North Beckley under that name. It's complete bullshit.
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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Mon 23 Jan 2017, 11:48 pm

Mr. EBERHARDT. There was a whole line, a whole line in front of the showup. I was standing about three people removed behind Oswald. I was standing behind Oswald and the reporters were shooting questions at them.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Was he seated?
Mr. EBERHARDT. No; he was standing. We were all standing.
Mr. GRIFFIN. You were able to look over his shoulder?
Mr. EBERHARDT. Oh, yes; I had a full view of the room.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Do you recall what other police officers were down there with you guarding Oswald and looking out?
Mr. EBERHARDT. Well, Mr. Wade was there; Chief Curry was there; Captain King was there.
Mr. GRIFFIN. What other detectives were guarding Oswald?
Mr. EBERHARDT. Well, homicide detectives were there. I don't know which ones they were. The ones that, you know, were working on him, probably Leavelle and his partner. Joe Cody was there. That is the only ones I
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remember. And there was some uniform men from the jail, I believe, there.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, did you stay after Oswald left?
Mr. EBERHARDT. Until they got him out. I didn't have anything to do with transporting him to or from the assembly room, but when he initially arrived in the assembly room, they asked us to go up there more or less to keep the reporters from making a rush for him.
Mr. GRIFFIN. How did you happen to go down to the assembly room in the first place?
Mr. EBERHARDT. To hear the press conference.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Out of curiosity?
Mr. EBERHARDT. Yes.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Did any other men from your bureau go down there?
Mr. EBERHARDT. Yes; Cody is from my bureau, and he is the only one that I remember being up there with me.


An aside recall Eberhardt said Ruby had an item on his lapel
making it rumored he had a press pass.


A great article and MUST read
http://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/1975/september/who-was-the-king-of-diamonds/
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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Tue 24 Jan 2017, 12:17 am

How large a safe could you buy for a couple thousand dollars in 1960's?

http://alt.assassination.jfk.narkive.com/BfGidKjb/my-interview-w-joe-cody-dpd

Magazine article with Cody by Jennifer Ann Hutt
https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth541889/m1/13/
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Post by Vinny on Tue 24 Jan 2017, 1:21 am

Hasan Yusuf wrote:P. S. It's time for everyone to stop harping on about Oswald living at 1026 North Beckley under that name. It's complete bullshit.

Just like the lunchroom encounter which was once accepted by almost all researchers.

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Post by Hasan Yusuf on Tue 24 Jan 2017, 1:32 am

Vinny wrote:
Hasan Yusuf wrote:P. S. It's time for everyone to stop harping on about Oswald living at 1026 North Beckley under that name. It's complete bullshit.

Just like the lunchroom encounter which was once accepted by almost all researchers.

Exactly!
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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Tue 24 Jan 2017, 2:05 am

Don't you have to be Thirty Five years old to run?

1980 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE JACK CODY P.O. Box 2656 DALLAS, TX. 75221 PAID POLITICAL ADV. PAID FOR BY JACK CODY
August 6, 1979
Irving Daily News from Irving, Texas · Page 4
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/44140052/#id=4892920&offset=1




I don't know if the atheist trespasser Greg found is the same Jack Cody, but he was hanging around city council according to this report.

November 4, 1973 The Eagle from Bryan, Texas · Page 8
Atheist Fined For Disrupting Church DALLAS (AP) Well known Dallas atheist .Jack Cody was fined $100 in municipal court Friday after being found guilty of “criminal trespassing” at the First Baptist Church of Dallas. Cody, who has been a fixture at City Council meetings for the past year, was arrested at the downtown church last Sunday when he showed up in the lobby wearing only a bathrobe and stocking cap. Cody told church officials he was opposed to the broadcasting of their sermons each week on WRR, the municipally-operated radio station. The Rev. Melvin Carter, assistant pastor of First Baptist
Church, told a 6-man jury in Municipal Judge Joe B. Irving’s court that Cody seemed to want to disrupt services. ‘We didn’t know what he was going to do,” the Rev. Mr. Carter said. “But he was causing a scene in the lobby. I told him he was welcome to stay if he wanted to worship but to leave if he planned to disrupt.” John Shanks, business administrator of the church, said he called the police when it was apparent that Cody would not leave voluntarily.


Jack Cody criminal record!

ID Case Number:
M-0147729
Last Name:CODY
First Name:JACK
Middle Name:
DOB:19441113
City:DALLAS
State:TX
Charges Filed Date:11292001
Offense Date:11272001
Offense Code:
Offense Desc:CLASS C CRIM TRES PROP
Conviction Date:
Source State:TX
Source Name:Dallas TX Courts
Court:MJ

Is this him born in 1944 November 13th 
http://www.courtrecords.org/people/JACK+CODY+TX/

Its a 2001 criminal trespassing charge, but isn't that what Jack Cody did in 1973?

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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Tue 24 Jan 2017, 2:11 am

WTH,
What is the Jack Cody interview for Frontline Who Was Lee Harvey Oswald?
6/20/93

Must mean Joe...
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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Tue 24 Jan 2017, 2:17 am

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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Tue 24 Jan 2017, 3:51 am

And lets not forget Hank Killam

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/9053-the-death-of-hank-killam-the-ultimate-cold-case/

I did find an 1962 SMU assistant named Don C Price

I found this Price while looking.
Has anyone heard of the Flamingo Club in Dallas?
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dallasmorningnews/obituary.aspx?n=john-e-price&pid=488133
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Post by Ed. Ledoux on Tue 24 Jan 2017, 4:30 am

Okay he is article on Herbert's Dad!!!

"That's my daddy!" cried five-year-old Herbert Leon Lee when his father, Cpl. Harmon C. Lee, lifted his son from his baby bed at 11 p.m. Wednesday night, the first time he had held the child in his arms in nearly five years. Herbert's father was one of the first Shreveport men to be taken prisoner by the Japanese. The child was only four months old when Corporal Lee left the United States, but during the years he and his mother. Mrs. Thelma Marshall, waited at 1652 Ford street, his mother's stories kept his father's image alive In the child's mind. Now a family which war separated for almost five years, years of sights of torture and starvation for the father, and anxiety and uncertainty for the mother, is re-united by peace. Corporal Lee arrived In Shreveport Wednesday night. Following his arlval In the states. Lee reported to San Antonio, where his wife met him.
expensive hat," ahe said, "and the 111 H flrs thing he did was to say It looked crazy and gave it away." Didn't Recognize Her They had planned to meet each other in a restaurant in San Antonio.
but he pnssed her in the cafe without, recognizing her at first. "No wonder." he explained, "I was looking for my wife and I found a glamor girl." Corporal Lee enlisted in May, 1941. He went to the Philippines In October, 1841, with an engineering unit. On May 5. 1942, he waa made a prisoner . m of war and was interned In the Philippines. He was missing in action for a year. Then the war department advised the family that he was a prisoner of war. During the next two years his wife received eight cards from him.  Lee missed the death march of Bataan by one week. When Bataan fell, he was in the hospital unconscious from battle fatigue.

"When Japan surrendered and the Americans began dropping supplies, I ran up on a hill, grabbed 37 candy bars and a can of peaches and ate them all. "The worst was when we left the Philippines. We went by boat to Japan and It took us two months to get there. We were packed in like cattle and we got two cups of rice J started getting s.ck."Things were not too bad In the Philippines, Lee said, because he drove a truck for a Japanese soldier with whom he made friends. As soon as they Rot away from the vigilant eve of the Japanese commander, the soldier permitted him to obtain a little food. Others nete not so fortunate. "They used to take some of them out on work detail," Lee related, "and would beat them until they couldn't atand up any longer. Then they were sent to Bilibad hospital, where they died It was put down as natural causes I've seen them bayonet Filipinos, but didn't see them bayonet any Americans. "Some of the American soldiers captured on Baiaan had Japanese money." he continued, "and everyone who uas found with Jnp money was shot One of the fellows had to watch his brother shot down." Ail of the soldiers hud to witness rip(iient executions, winch, according to l.ee. was a euphemism fur murder. "I saw them put five men m front of a firing sqund." he said, and we had to watch. Five men had escaped to try to lind food and were causht. They were made to die their iown graves and then tied to posts in the sun all afternoon. After leaving them In the sun for awhile, the Japs shot two of them in the area where the hospital was located and three In the area In which we worked. Ordered Own Men Shot "When we first arrived we were put in work squads of ten. If one escaped, the other nine were shot. But their favorite form of killing was beheading." At this point, Corporal Lee declined to go into further details of his experiences. He saw one glimmer of Justice during his Internment, he said. Shortly after Bataan fell, two Jap privates cornered a nurse in one of the tents planning to rape her. to the Japanese commander. When the commander learned what the men had planned, he had the two Jap soldiers shot. Lee said. Kuhy Brother killed Visting" Corporal Lee in Shreveport la his brother. Herbert H. Lee. who was discharged in June. He served 32 months in the Pacific and V tr

November 11, 1945
The Times from Shreveport, Louisiana · Page 34
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A picture of baby Herbert Leon Lee!!
WHOA what a read!! what do you think of Herbert Leon Lee now?
His father a war hero but I'll reserve further comment till you all sound off.

How you like me now!
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5-YEAR-OLD HAS WAITED FOR FATHER (Csnllnatd from Fas On.) Advised them that no Private Harmon C. lee had been returned to military control. Private Lee enlisted In service May 1941. He went to the Philippines in October, " 1941, with an engineering unit. On May 6, 1642, he was made a prisoner of war of the Japs and was Interned In the Philippines. He was listed as missing in action for a year and then the war department advised the family he was a prisoner of war. During the next two years his wife received eight cards from him. In September, 1944, he was transferred to Pukuoka prison camp, Just north of Tokyo. The first word that he had been liberated came yesterday. The small boy said yesterday; "Do you know my dad is coming home. I wan't him to hurry. I want to play." Herbert knew he had a dad, although he was too small to know when he went away. His mother has shown him the picture of his dad and told him some day he would come home. Now Herbert wants his dad to hurry and come home



September 28, 1945
The Times from Shreveport, Louisiana · Page 12
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Post by Hasan Yusuf on Wed 25 Jan 2017, 11:41 pm

Who knows how much of the following story from Carroll Jarnagin is true, but does anyone besides me find it even mildly curious that Jarnagin claimed the man he thought looked like Oswald was using the name H. L. Lee? As in Hebert Leon Lee????? WTF?

http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10489&search=OH_Lee+Jack+Ruby#relPageId=589&tab=page
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Post by Hasan Yusuf on Wed 25 Jan 2017, 11:49 pm

Hasan Yusuf wrote:Who knows how much of the following story from Carroll Jarnagin is true, but does anyone besides me find it even mildly curious that Jarnagin claimed the man he thought looked like Oswald was using the name H. L. Lee? As in Hebert Leon Lee????? WTF?

http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10489&search=OH_Lee+Jack+Ruby#relPageId=589&tab=page

What is this; coincidence 344, 507 we have to believe was nothing but a coincidence? There are two things that never cease to amaze me doing this research. The first is the number of gonads who frequent the various assassination forums, the second is the number of "coincidences" I have stumbled upon.
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Post by barto on Mon 22 May 2017, 4:13 am

Ed's pic was so small....I thought I add the correct size for all to see and bump this fucker regardless I'm a smartass &


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Post by barto on Mon 22 May 2017, 4:16 am

Thanks to Steve Roe for all these.
Herbert Lee's grandmother's death. The Times November 9, 1990. Herbert Lee is noted as living in Longview, Tx (East Tx).


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