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Who Dat?
Fri 15 Dec 2023, 8:04 am
Alyea Film,
Reporters(?), Baker, Truly, and Campbell are discussing having just seen Oswald
"WE SAW HIM IN A SMALL STORAGE ROOM ON THE GROUND FLOOR. THEN WE NOTICED HE WAS GONE. "
MR CAMPBELL ADDED. "OF COURSE, MR OSWALD AND THE OTHERS WERE ON THEIR LUNCH HOUR BUT HE DID NOT HAVE PERMISSION TO LEAVE THE BUILDING AND WE HAVEN'T SEEN HIM SINCE."
Plus behind Ochus is a warehouse worker standing around looking like he's waiting to go back to work?
Not involved in the conversation, not interested in the Cop and Big Wigs pow wow.
Who dat?
Does he look Oswaldish, same hairline. Has warehousemen type clothing on.
Reporters(?), Baker, Truly, and Campbell are discussing having just seen Oswald
"WE SAW HIM IN A SMALL STORAGE ROOM ON THE GROUND FLOOR. THEN WE NOTICED HE WAS GONE. "
MR CAMPBELL ADDED. "OF COURSE, MR OSWALD AND THE OTHERS WERE ON THEIR LUNCH HOUR BUT HE DID NOT HAVE PERMISSION TO LEAVE THE BUILDING AND WE HAVEN'T SEEN HIM SINCE."
Plus behind Ochus is a warehouse worker standing around looking like he's waiting to go back to work?
Not involved in the conversation, not interested in the Cop and Big Wigs pow wow.
Who dat?
Does he look Oswaldish, same hairline. Has warehousemen type clothing on.
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Fri 15 Dec 2023, 8:07 am
https://youtu.be/_eo6PghAH8I?feature=shared
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Fri 15 Dec 2023, 1:10 pm
Friday afternoon storage room crowd? Could be the source meeting for that article.
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Fri 15 Dec 2023, 4:19 pm
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Fri 15 Dec 2023, 9:03 pm
Could it be Lovelady?
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Sat 16 Dec 2023, 8:07 pm
Thanks for the correction,Ed.
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Sun 17 Dec 2023, 3:29 am
No worries, so was this pow wow with the big wigs and Baker after 12:45 and after end of the lunch "hour", lunch break.
The raw footage has the clip of this meeting well into Alyea's film... if its anywhere close to its original positioning.
Is it still the case that angry archivists wont allow observing Edge Markings on Alyea?
Any other clues as to timing of this clip?
Is it before Alyea films out the front door of TSBD?
The raw footage has the clip of this meeting well into Alyea's film... if its anywhere close to its original positioning.
Is it still the case that angry archivists wont allow observing Edge Markings on Alyea?
Any other clues as to timing of this clip?
Is it before Alyea films out the front door of TSBD?
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Sun 17 Dec 2023, 4:36 am
Maybe it was the guy who came early to unlock the building. Can't remember his name right off. I don't think there's any decent photos of him around anyway.
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Sun 17 Dec 2023, 5:37 am
Molina?
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Sun 17 Dec 2023, 7:10 am
So Campbell was wearing a hat inside and would be wearing one outside too? I saw an ID on Campbell somewhere outside with no hat.
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Sun 17 Dec 2023, 9:06 am
Hat n Glasses for Campbell.
Dont think Im getting a Jack Dougherty vibe, seems unhusky, no round face, not blonde, def no glasses, and mole under nose isnt visible.
Doesnt act/dress like a reporter nor cop.
Not getting Joe Molina feeling either, no dress shirt buttoned up, doesnt look like a white shirt, no tie.
More of a uniform type work shirt, open collared, nice clean, well fitting.
Guy looks like a contractor, tradesman... just my 2$ (w/inflation)
When I first watched him I thought,
Waiting for Truly to finish up the conference so he can collect a check. (Floor layer)
Truck Driver was second thought.,
SFM oral history
"Ken DuVall A truck driver with Central Motor Freight in Dallas, DuVall frequently picked up shipments of textbook boxes at the loading dock of the Texas School Book Depository. On November 22, 1963, he allegedly saw Lee Harvey Oswald in the second-floor lunch room approximately thirty minutes before the assassination. Recorded May 6, 2009."
Although no one has ever corroborated such a tale.
Dont think Im getting a Jack Dougherty vibe, seems unhusky, no round face, not blonde, def no glasses, and mole under nose isnt visible.
Doesnt act/dress like a reporter nor cop.
Not getting Joe Molina feeling either, no dress shirt buttoned up, doesnt look like a white shirt, no tie.
More of a uniform type work shirt, open collared, nice clean, well fitting.
Guy looks like a contractor, tradesman... just my 2$ (w/inflation)
When I first watched him I thought,
Waiting for Truly to finish up the conference so he can collect a check. (Floor layer)
Truck Driver was second thought.,
SFM oral history
"Ken DuVall A truck driver with Central Motor Freight in Dallas, DuVall frequently picked up shipments of textbook boxes at the loading dock of the Texas School Book Depository. On November 22, 1963, he allegedly saw Lee Harvey Oswald in the second-floor lunch room approximately thirty minutes before the assassination. Recorded May 6, 2009."
Although no one has ever corroborated such a tale.
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Sun 17 Dec 2023, 9:09 am
Rats, no pic
https://www.echovita.com/us/obituaries/tx/san-diego/kenneth-boyd-duvall-7878139
https://www.echovita.com/us/obituaries/tx/san-diego/kenneth-boyd-duvall-7878139
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Sun 17 Dec 2023, 9:11 am
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Sun 17 Dec 2023, 9:23 am
Wife says nothing about husband being a truck driver. Though obit mentions their Charter Bus Company. Was Kens retirement spent driving that bus, as he was a truck driver... yeah quite possible.
https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/carrollton-tx/ina-duvall-4853589
https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/carrollton-tx/ina-duvall-4853589
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Sun 17 Dec 2023, 10:40 am
Ed, the ears aren't a good match.
Have a look at when this guy leans over behind Campbell before his face is seen. (to the right of Campbell as wee see it) I see some white on his left neck area, which looks brighter than his shirt. Is he wearing a white T-shirt under his shirt?
Have a look at when this guy leans over behind Campbell before his face is seen. (to the right of Campbell as wee see it) I see some white on his left neck area, which looks brighter than his shirt. Is he wearing a white T-shirt under his shirt?
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Sun 17 Dec 2023, 11:23 am
One other quick "Who Dat?" from the Tom Alyea film linked above. I'm certain this has been noticed by many over the years and dealt with somewhere but I'm not able to find it and since the clock is scheduled to strike midnight on this forum soon I thought I'd just ask.
At the 5:50 mark of the film, a man walks across the screen from left to right. In my opinion he looks somewhat familiar. Does anyone know where more information might be found on these particular frames? I'm sure it's been written about somewhere, if anyone can point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it.
Many thanks to all those who have made this forum what it is.
At the 5:50 mark of the film, a man walks across the screen from left to right. In my opinion he looks somewhat familiar. Does anyone know where more information might be found on these particular frames? I'm sure it's been written about somewhere, if anyone can point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it.
Many thanks to all those who have made this forum what it is.
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Sun 17 Dec 2023, 1:08 pm
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Sun 17 Dec 2023, 1:18 pm
Aloha Eric, Thanks to all the ROKCrs we have had quite the go at this. Yes it'll be missed.Eric47d wrote:One other quick "Who Dat?" from the Tom Alyea film linked above. I'm certain this has been noticed by many over the years and dealt with somewhere but I'm not able to find it and since the clock is scheduled to strike midnight on this forum soon I thought I'd just ask.
At the 5:50 mark of the film, a man walks across the screen from left to right. In my opinion he looks somewhat familiar. Does anyone know where more information might be found on these particular frames? I'm sure it's been written about somewhere, if anyone can point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it.
Many thanks to all those who have made this forum what it is.
Dis guy?
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Sun 17 Dec 2023, 1:37 pm
Not quite there with the ear. Also I'm seeing more of a triangular jawline with a distinctive chin on your guy. I agree with the work clothes, and I'd say he's a TSBD employee, rather than an outsider.
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