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Open letter to NBC

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Re: Open letter to NBC

Post by Robin Unger on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 11:13 am

Garry Mack replies to Marcel Dehaeseleer 2006 Education forum
regarding splices in the wiegman film, and the fact that the Groden version is not the complete Wiegman film.


https://quaneeri.blogspot.com.au/2017/10/gary-mack-comments-re-wiegman-film.html
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Re: Open letter to NBC

Post by greg parker on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 11:31 am

Thanks Robin. 

From Robin's link:

The original, unedited Dave Wiegman film runs 36.5 seconds according to video tapes of the film's first broadcast at about 3pm local time that day.
If Groden's version is short, it's not his fault. That film has been shown many, many times since 1963 and I always see it edited differently. You have to known news film editors and news film editing techniques. The practice in those days was to edit film so blurry or confusing sequences aren't confusing to the audience.


Groden's version is missing a second or two at the very beginning of the film and some more is missing of the Newmans on the ground. There is one splice and maybe two, so more frames are probably missing at those places, too.


Groden owns at least two 16mm prints of the Wiegman film and the one he has on his video is the better image of the two.

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Post by steely dan on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 11:49 am

If i'm reading this right....the original is intact but the video transfers for broadcast were edited?
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Re: Open letter to NBC

Post by Mick Purdy on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 2:25 pm

Stan Dane wrote:We don't need the whole Darnell film. I only want one frame from the original/first generation film to be scanned.
 
This one:
 

 
This is the best frame of the whole lot. The others are more blurred. 

A 4K scan of THIS FRAME should confirm whether or not this is Oswald.
Hi Gang,

Sorry for the silence, I have had a bummer of a year with lots happening, not all good to be honest.
This is the frame IMHO that would prove beyond a reasonable doubt whom PrayerMan is. IMO without question. I reiterate with a healthy dose of experience in this field that the blur everyone is referring to is what's known as motion blur, a result of the shutter angle (speed) the footage was taken at. This frame is at the precise moment when Darnell had steadied, stopped his pan right, just before he moved the camera to pan back toward Elm street. There are between 2-4 frames which would show a crisp in focus image. If we obtain the original film or even a dupe copy and scan at high resolution it will show us who Prayerman is without question in my view. Thats whi its so very important to hang onto the cause for dear life, it closes the case against the man they came to blame. An innocent man whom stands exactly where he said he had been to authorities. Game over!
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Re: Open letter to NBC

Post by Stan Dane on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 2:40 pm

Great to see you back, Mick! Missed you, mate.
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Re: Open letter to NBC

Post by greg parker on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 4:38 pm

Mick Purdy wrote:
Stan Dane wrote:We don't need the whole Darnell film. I only want one frame from the original/first generation film to be scanned.
 
This one:
 

 
This is the best frame of the whole lot. The others are more blurred. 

A 4K scan of THIS FRAME should confirm whether or not this is Oswald.
Hi Gang,

Sorry for the silence, I have had a bummer of a year with lots happening, not all good to be honest.
This is the frame IMHO that would prove beyond a reasonable doubt whom PrayerMan is. IMO without question. I reiterate with a healthy dose of experience in this field that the blur everyone is referring to is what's known as motion blur, a result of the shutter angle (speed) the footage was taken at. This frame is at the precise moment when Darnell had steadied, stopped his pan right, just before he moved the camera to pan back toward Elm street. There are between 2-4 frames which would show a crisp in focus image. If we obtain the original film or even a dupe copy and scan at high resolution it will show us who Prayerman is without question in my view. Thats whi its so very important to hang onto the cause for dear life, it closes the case against the man they came to blame. An innocent man whom stands exactly where he said he had been to authorities. Game over!
No need for apologies Mick. I hope and trust things are on the improve.

I've made a public plea for help via a popular podcast type show hosted by someone who surprised the hell out of me in more ways than one - and each in a positive sense. That will be up by Nov 22, time permitting.  He loves your work btw, and we also discussed that at some length.

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Re: Open letter to NBC

Post by Robin Unger on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 8:35 pm

Darnell frame.

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Re: Open letter to NBC

Post by Jake Sykes on Sat 07 Oct 2017, 9:12 pm

Welcome back Mick. I suspect things will be getting ever more interesting now that you are.
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Re: Open letter to NBC

Post by Goban Saor on Sun 08 Oct 2017, 10:59 am

Welcome back and best wishes from me too, Mick.

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