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The Most Incriminated Man In the World. 


All fun aside the new CTKA article was pointed out by Bart.

http://www.ctka.net/2015/JeffCarterBYP4.html

One point made was, 
30) If the backyard photos were faked, it means that all items within the photo were deliberately chosen by the forgers. The odd inclusion on the Oswald figure is then the pistol. It invokes the Tippit slaying, but how could the Tippit slaying be anticipated months ahead? Perhaps a shootout with the pistol-carrying assassin was the anticipated event.


Was slaying of Tippit with an automatic pistol changed to match the picture of a revolver. More likely they knew LHO had purchased a pistol in Fort Worth.  

Or were the photos composited onto an empty backyard photo after Tippits murder thus the need for a pistol wearing murderer.





When you examine the photos the shadows under the stairs do not change yet the shadow of LHO does, denoting time between images.
This would lend credence to Oswald's being composited onto a single image. See images below.



Again the stairs shadow is the same, note its appearance on the blanket etc. yet the "oswald" shadow has changed implying time between photos.

In fact the shadow of the rifle is at a different angle than the holder of rifle in second pose.

Of note is the bag or sack, or "blanket" possibly used to carry the rifle to the location, under the stairs by the post. Possibly a connection to the baby blanket later claimed to hold a disassembled rifle. 



In this image is a black 'thing' sticking out of the fence known as the black dog nose. It is likely light leak from the compositing process.


No black sports shirt with two white buttons was not on clothing inventory of LHO.

Do the black pants look like dress pants or more like work pants?


Do you think these are black dress pants?  


Please respond to the questions raised first, then we can expand the post to other areas of the BYPs.

Cheers, Ed

[size=13][size=13][size=13]Ruth Paine sketched the Magazine St layout for the Warren Commission[/size][/size][/size]

Credit Jeff Carter;
https://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/a-new-look-at-the-enigma-of-the-backyard-photographs-parts-1-3

Jeff is one of the better researchers out there. This stuff is outstanding.

greg parker wrote:Jeff is one of the better researchers out there. This stuff is outstanding.

True that.

Serving as an example of a photo “entirely consistent” with the Imperial Reflex is a photograph taken in New Orleans, JFK Exhibit F-189, in which Oswald’s young daughter June is pictured posing before the screened porch in the courtyard of the Magazine Street apartment. Numbered pointers show identified scratches or markings which appear to match the scratches and markings found on the backyard photos. This photograph is one of a New Orleans set, “family-type snapshots” which include photos that could be described as “Marina Oswald playing with a child” (and a set to which negatives were recovered). Of the other photographs specifically mentioned in the Kirk’s description of the Oswald photographs, the known snapshots of “Lee Oswald holding an infant” originate from Russia, while the “scenes of an older child and a baby in a crib” seem to refer to separate photos of either an older child or a baby in a crib which originate from Russia and later a few from Dallas and New Orleans. According to Robert Oswald, the Imperial Reflex (or whatever “American camera” Lee Oswald owned) stayed with him until Lee’s return to Fort Worth in 1962 and so could not have been used in Russia.





















Credit Jeff Carter;
https://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/a-new-look-at-the-enigma-of-the-backyard-photographs-parts-1-3

So Robert is shown a picture, taken with A camera, of Lee with a pistol and rifle.
What camera did Robert assume took these, and as he stated he knew Lee owned it before Marine Corp (active duty?) and held it for his Russian return.
Was Ruth setting up Robert perhaps.
McCabe was in a small one car garage with Rose, Adamcik and searched two boxes a suitcase and couple of seabags,,, whilst they take note of a rifle toting Oswald in pictures and gather EVERY other piece of photographic equipment, even the Paines photog belongings.... yet McCabe acts like the two boxes were such that one might easily miss this important item in lieu of the BYP finds.
Yeah not believing it.
And the timing of his recollections and Ruth's call...far too coincidental.
Cheers, Ed

Seth Kantor writes down in his notes:












1952 – The TSBD management and clerical personnel at Pacific Avenue building relocated to the first floor of 501 Elm St (the Dal-Tex building). At some point, Jack Cason decides to lease the building across the street, 411 Elm St. There is some confusion about when this happened. O.V. Campbell told William Weston that this happened around 1958. Spaulding Jones, former branch manager of MacMillan Publishing, thought the move to 411 took place in 1957 or 1958.

1960 - “The school depository firm moved in in 1960 and took a 15 year-lease. It was previously occupied by a wholesale grocery firm.” (Dallas Morning News 11/24/63)

1961 Nov 14 – the Sexton company vacates the 411 Elm St building. (William Weston; date from Ted Leon, former branch manager in Dallas 1961-64; he kept all his pocket calendars from work). According to Thomas Butler, who became the Sexton branch manager in 1964, the building remained vacant for about a year after his company moved out. Months of renovation for new offices would be necessary before the TSBD could move in. A dumb waiter is installed for the first four floors. A passenger elevator for the office floors is built. (Weston)

1962 January – the TSBD acquires the 411 Elm St location, leasing it from D.H. Byrd (SS report CO-2-34030 12/7/1963) The Polk’s criss-cross 1962 business directory shows that the TSBD was still listed as having an address on the first floor of 501 Elm St (Dal-Tex Bldg). The same directory lists the 411 Elm St building as vacant. The 1963 directory lists the book companies at 411 Elm. Also that year the first floor of the Dal-Tex become vacant. (William Weston)

1963 Oct 15 – LHO is hired at the TSBD

1963 – “The Texas School Book Depository is a privately-owned firm engaged in the warehousing and shipping of textbooks for various publishers. The books are shipped to schools in Texas and surrounding states. The firm presently occupies a building at 411 Elm Street, Dallas, Texas, and has occupied the building since January 1962. Prior to that time, the firm was located at 501 Elm Street, Dallas, Texas. The presently occupied building is leased from Mr. D. Harold Byrd, 6909 Vassar, Dallas, Texas, who has owned the building for many years. The officers of this company are Mr. Jack C. Cason, President, 4015 Druid Lane, Dallas, Texas; W. 0. V. Campbell, Vice President, 7120 Twin Tree Lane, Dallas, Texas; and W. Roy S. Truly, Director and Superintendent of Operations, 4932 Jade Street, Dallas, Texas. This firm also furnishes office space for seven publishing companies, whose books and publications are handled by the Texas School Book Depository. These publishers are as follows: Lyons and Carnahan, Room 201; South Western Publishing Company, Room 203; Allyn and Bacon, Room 301; The MacMillan Company, Room 302; The American Book Company, Room 303; McGraw-gill Book Company, and their subdivision, Gregg Publishing Company, Room 305; and Scott-Foresman Company, Room 401.” (Secret Service report CO-2-34030 12/7/1963)

1963 Nov 23 FBI report by Nat Pinkston (File# DL 100-10461) statement by Roy Truly – he told the agents that his company “has occupied the building at 411 Elm Street for only a few months. Prior to this time, the building was occupied by a wholesale grocery company engaged in supplying restaurants and institutions…”
 
http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/ar...sPageId=389779

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?absPageId=519339

Was Ruth setting up Robert perhaps?


Great question Ed,



Marina has a short stay with Robert after he is alleged to have picked up the Imperial camera. Stays for a few nights. Lots to discuss. Learns a lot about how that camera actually worked. You know like how you had to look through the top finder and how you had to hold it at waist height. What color it was. Sure there was other stuff these two would have chatted about too.
Love does funny things sometimes. Since when did these two become so chummy?


Ruth, Robert, and Marina, the triangle perhaps.

When you throw in Ruth it becomes a quadratic equation with Michael completing the square.

Ed

Ed. Ledoux wrote:When you throw in Ruth it becomes a quadratic equation with Michael completing the square.

Ed

What if we throw in Lee Oswald too, should we then have a Pentagon? 

Sure! But...
Only if George and Jeanne De Morhenschilt can tag team the odd man out.

Ed

Cheers, Ed

HSCA 38 pages on the authenticity of the BYP, thanks to Malcolm Blunt
https://drive.google.com/file/d/19FyLokilaK1PwEGfuJevyHEZYQ2GbnW6/view?usp=sharing

So the DeM BYP may be the weapon in the archives.

We know this pic turned up late for the party and if no such "moon crater" is visible in the photos known up until then... not sure we have to believe that those earlier ones show the same weapon.

Stovall 133A  - DeM 133A and CE134 (enlargement 10 x 8 inch copy of CE 133A)

Need to have a look at this more closely.

Can measure a crater, yet cant measure a man.
Pity
Ed

Sorry for sounding like a dumbass noob, but what's the consensus here on the BYP and how they were created? Were they made on Nov 22nd? Inspired by the one photo Marina took in Russia? With Oswald holding a shotgun over his head to celebrate June's birth. From my reading I'd say the Quaker Charity lady definitely had something t do with it. Using the commie papers she said she threw out. Her Commission testimony is almost laughable on this point.
Do you think it was a fortuitous piece of improvising? Finding out about the Russian photos and using the commie papers t tie the noose tighter.
Or do you guys figure it was premeditated. Tying him t Neely St, an address he never even stayed at.
If you believe Adele Edison there certainly was a sophisticated long term set up.
If got t confess I'm not sold on the whole alteration angle, but these photos certainly look suspicious. And amateurishly so.
I'd be interested t hear people's thoughts on the topic, and sorry again if this seems like 101 stuff.
Maybe i need t stay behind class and write out the Evica Drago model 1000×, until i fully comprehend its God-like profundities and subtleties. Until i can tell my foo from my deep foo.

Ed. Ledoux wrote:Can measure a crater, yet cant measure a man.
Pity
Ed

HaHa , quite so Ed,

Hopefully not too far off

This is a bit from interwebs that should be recognizable.,

Quote: "My investigation has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Zapruder never stopped his camera at that point, as he repeatedly told people , and that the film was cut and optically reframed so that there is no splice. Optical reframing is the method used when a film receives " special effects" or is altered. As is explained in my book on the film, "The Hoax of the Century", there are no flash frames or evidence of "first frame over exposure" at Z-133, the transition from the three motorcycles leading the motorcade to the limousine, and it is a jump cut. I have interviewed a leading film expert in the world as well as the inventors of the camera who were trying to prevent such flash frames, and it is a certainty that the camera always produced them when it was stopped and then restarted .We do not see them at this crucial transition from one scene to another in the film.

It is reasonable that there was another person operating a camera close by Zapruder with essentially the same perspective, perhaps in the "pill box" just behind Zapruder in the pergola. This film was the one that was flown to Kodak in Rochester N.Y, as testimony indicates, altered, and Zapruder's film disappeared later on. During the massive shell game that was played with Zapruder's film before it was developed in Dallas. the other film was already in the air. Or, as I elsewhere suggested, it was being developed in either the Hester�s lab, or in a mobil film lab somewhere�. Off Quote. 

Marilyn Sitzman, Charles and Beatrice Hester were filmed by Abraham Zapruder shortly before the motorcade arrived�..the same Charles Hester owned �Commercial Photography���. 
A Robert and Pat Hester were part owners, along with Fritz and Helen Holland of a company called �The National Film Company��� 
The daughter of Robert & Pat Hester, Vicky Mayne who worked in the lab, of TNFC, told Harrison Livingstone that had actually developed numerous films and photographs, including photos taken of the President�s body at Parkland. ..upon which seeing, she threw up�She also mentioned that she helped develop the Zapruder film�. 

Below from �Killing The Truth� H.E Livingstone.. 

Vickie Mayne : Page 511

� Vickie Mayne was sixteen on the day that John Kennedy died. She helped
do the work in her parents film lab when the Secret Service brought in
all the photos, films, and the Zapruder film they had rounded up in
DealeyPlaza. She told me that she had seen the photographs of
Kennedy's body taken at ParklandHospital, a fact that no outsider was
aware of. She remembered this with great clarity because she threw up
upon seeing them. What else could make her throw up but pictures of a
dead body and terrible wounds?

Two couples owned the lab, the National Photo Company, and the Secret
Service supposedly allowed them to retain copies of all the pictures
they developed that day. If this is true, it would seem an unlikely
scenario that the Secret Service conspired to kill President Kennedy. 
Another interpretation is that the passing of copies to outside
witnesses was for their S.Ss own protection. Some of
the Secret Service agents had testified to other guns and the sounds of
pistols. They must have known it was a conspiracy, and their later
descriptions of the wounds were not in line with the Warren Commission
story.

In any event, the home of Vickie Mayne's parents burned down some time
later, and the treasure trove in it---if that is where it was----burned
with it. "There were hundreds and hundreds of rolls of film," she told
me.Mayne said the fire was determined to be arson. Healey told me
that he knew of the trove and that Mayne's parents had, had this
material. Vickie told me that her family still had the materials when
her mother died in June 1987.
Her parents were Robert and Pat (Edna) Hester. The other couple was
Fritz and Helen Holland, both deceased and leaving no children.�

I recall Sen(?) Gonzales had some info on pictures, his met a unknown fate... supposedly...
Spooks burning down the house to stop the pics.
Wild stuff. Great article Bart.
Cheers, Ed

Vicki D. Mayne, age 68, of Maryville, died at 6:34 p.m. Saturday, October 5, 2013 at her residence. She was born August 22, 1945 in Dallas, TX, the daughter of the late Robert and Pat Hester. She married Billy Mayne. He preceded her in death. She is survived by three children: Rankin (wife Kevin) Mayne of troy, IL, Robert Mayne of Dallas, TX and Vanda Mayne of Lawndale, CA; eight grandchildren: Dyllan, Destiney, Dalexis, Kamryn, Haley, Megan, Mark and Chantel; three great-grandchildren; one brother, Craig Hester of Dallas, TX; and one sister, Beverly Owens of Longview, TX. She was preceded in death by two sisters: Melodye Hall and Sharon Osborne. 

Mrs. Mayne was a Commercial Lines Manager with Martin and Sons Insurance in Dallas, TX. She was a Lifetime member of the VFW LAdies Auxillary and was a co-founder of DFW National Cemetery in Texas.