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Why Officer Tippit Stopped His Killer

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Tue 28 Apr 2020, 10:31 am
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Mick Purdy wrote:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ApjDHmxj-0Cvo7t3rzrJESaZzK2G-eVw/view?usp=sharing

Robert Barrett HSCA. 

Credit Bart Kamp.

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Unless I'm misunderstanding this completely Barrett's recollections given to the HSCA state that Decker and he stood on the steps on the 22nd Nov 1963 and over heard the news of President Kennedy having had his last rights read to him. He then states at that point Both Decker and he overheard the news of a police officer having been shot in the Oak Cliff area.

The timeline according to Barrett's version of events at least to my mind is highly suggestive that Tippit was murdered around 1.00pm, if not before.

12:57 PM according to the timeline at this site Mick:
https://www.businessinsider.com/kennedy-assassination-timeline-2013-11?op=1#1245-pm-11
However, that doesn't time stamp this conversation on the steps. It could have been later.
I agree Jake it does not give us a solid timeline of the Tippit murder but when combined with the other information we have here of the timeline it marries. It's just another supporting piece of the puzzle that suggests Tippit may have been killed as early as 12.55-1.06

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Tue 28 Apr 2020, 10:49 am
Quoting from a 1967 interview with dispatcher Murray Jackson:


We had received a call from a citizen. They called us on the telephone and the call sheet came - came to me and there was a disturbance in street in the 400 block of East 10th.


We know that someone has telephoned into Dallas Police around or just prior to 1.00pm for the above call.
This radio dispatch call to 78 was made between 1:02:00pm 1:02:30pm. This call to 78 is claimed to have been erased from the recording. 
That 30 seconds probably included Tippit's response to dispatch. That's important




excerpt from a letter written to Joachim Joesten concerning a Shirley Martin interview with Hugh Aynesworth, Dallas Morning News reporter.

The unknown citizen’s call at 1:02 or 1:03 does not appear in the transcript of police radio messages. 


On the audio recording at precisely 1:02 there is 30 seconds of noise, indicating an erasure. 


About a minute later, at 1:03, the dispatcher attempted to reach Tippit and got no response.






Dispatcher to Tippit at 12.54pm

"you'll be at large for any emegency that comes in"

Tippit reports he is at Lancaster and Eighth.


Tippit was killed not more than 3 1/2 blocks away near 10th and Patton St. sometime after the last communication back to base at 12.54pm.



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Tue 28 Apr 2020, 12:53 pm
Dispatcher78.  
 12:54pm78 (Ptm. J.D. Tippit)78.  
 DispatcherYou are in the Oak Cliff area, are you not?  
 78Lancaster and Eighth.  
 DispatcherYou will be at large for any emergency that comes in.  
 7810-4.

 
Hello, police operator?  
 1:16pmDispatcherGo ahead. Go ahead, citizen using the police radio.  
 CitizenThere's been a shooting out here.  
 DispatcherWhere's it at?  
 DispatcherThe citizen using the police radio . . .  
 CitizenTenth Street.  
 DispatcherWhat location on Tenth Street?  
 CitizenBetween Marsalis and Beckley. It's a police officer. Somebody shot him. What -- what's . . . 404 Tenth Street.  
 DispatcherCan you hear me?  
  (Man and woman's voices in background)  
 Dispatcher78.  
 CitizenIt's in a police car, number 10.  
 Dispatcher78.  
 Dispatcher (?)78.  
 CitizenGot that?  
 CitizenHello, police operator. Did you get that?  
 DispatcherAttention. Signal 19, police officer, 510 E. Jefferson.  
 CitizenThank you.  
 35 (Ptm. J.M. Lewis)35.  
 259 (unknown)259.  
 DispatcherThe citizen using the police radio: Remain off the radio now. Why Officer Tippit Stopped His Killer  - Page 6 Clip_image001  
 Dispatcher91.



 
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dpdtapes/tapes2.htm


So the transcribed police radio dispatch communication by the Washington Research Section has Citizen calling in at 1.16pm.


Strange, the Methodist Hospital notes Tippits body arrived DOA at 1.15pm.


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Dispatcher to Tippit at 12.54pm

"you'll be at large for any emegency that comes in"

Tippit reports he is at Lancaster and Eighth.


Tippit was killed not more than 3 1/2 blocks away near 10th and Patton St. sometime after the last communication back to base at 12.54pm.



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US secret service report on timing of Tippit's murder at 1.00pm. Taken from copies of the original police dispatch recordings.

Tippit was most likely shot and killed according to this report, around 1.00pm-1.05pm



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In 1977, ambulance driver Clayton 
Butler was interviewed by 
investigators for the House Select 
Committee on Assassinations. When 
asked how long it took him to reach 
the scene, he replied: "I was on the 
scene one minute or less. From the 
time we received the call in our 
dispatch office until Officer Tippit was 
pronounced dead at Methodist 
Hospital was approximately four 
minutes. 


[url=https://archive.org/stream/nsia-TippitJD/nsia-TippitJD/Tippitt J D 68_djvu.txt][url=https://archive.org/stream/nsia-TippitJD/nsia-TippitJD/Tippitt J D 68_djvu.txt[/url]]https://archive.org/stream/nsia-TippitJD/nsia-TippitJD/Tippitt%20J%20D%2068_djvu.txt[/url][/url]


The Dudley M. Hughes 
Funeral Home 

 
The ambulance reached the murder 
scene so quickly simply because the 
central ambulance dispatching point 
for southern Dallas was only about 
three blocks away. It was, and still is, 
the Dudley M. Hughes Funeral Home, 
located at 400 East Jefferson 
Boulevard.


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Tue 28 Apr 2020, 2:10 pm
The following is an excerpt from a letter written to Joachim Joesten concerning a Shirley Martin interview with Hugh Aynesworth, Dallas Morning News reporter.



“… It has intrigued me that Aynesworth was so convinced in his conversation with me that Tippit had been killed around 1 p.m. Aynesworth is extraordinarily proud of the fact that he is the only reporter in the United States to have been at all four major scenes (the assassination, the Tippit killing immediately after, the arrest of Oswald in the Texas Theater, and the murder of Oswald in the police basement). 

When I praised Mr. Aynesworth for this and suggested that perhaps he should have been considered for the Pulitzer Prize (rather than Mr. [Merriman] Smith whom Mr. Aynesworth claims does not deserve the prize as another Dallas reporter did all his, Smith’s, writing for him), Mr. Aynesworth modestly admitted to an oversight on the part of the committee, but continued to speak at great length over his four unique experiences. 


When I asked Mr. Aynesworth how and when he first heard about Tippit, he replied: “I was standing near the Texas Book Building, all the other reporters had gone to Parkland (Hospital), but I felt a story was breaking near the building, when I heard a squad radio blast out that a policeman had been shot in Oak Cliff. This was around one o’clock. 


I ran to the car and went with it to Patton and Tenth. I had a hunch that the policeman’s murder was tied in with the assassination. I got to the Tenth Street area about 1:05, no later than 1:10 p.m. …” [1]


Years later, Aynesworth gave author Larry Sneed additional details. [2] He was at the police command post at the corner of Houston and Elm with Inspector Herbert Sawyer, Sgt. Calvin Owens, Sgt. Gerald Hill, Assistant District Attorney Bill Alexander, and news reporter Jim Ewell. As Gerald Hill urged Sawyer to get the crime lab over to the Texas School Book Depository, the police radio traffic was interrupted: “This is a citizen. A policeman’s been shot! He’s hurt pretty bad, I think!” The citizen then gave the location.


If Tippit was shot at precisely 1:00 p.m. and Aynesworth heard the unknown citizen’s call two to three minutes later, then Craig’s time of 1:06 represents the time that it took for a messenger from the command post on the street to reach the search party on the sixth floor.


The unknown citizen’s call at 1:02 or 1:03 does not appear in the transcript of police radio messages. On the audio recording at precisely 1:02 there is 30 seconds of noise, indicating an erasure. About a minute later, at 1:03, the dispatcher attempted to reach Tippit and got no response.



After receiving the call, Hill, Alexander, and Owens promptly left for Oak Cliff. Aynesworth went with WFAA-TV newsmen Ron Reiland and Vic Robertson in the Channel 8 cruiser. 


Reiland drove the cruiser recklessly, making a lot of fast moves to pass other cars and barreling through intersections as fast as he could go, using an illegal flashing light accessory to warn other drivers. These details show how the three newsmen managed to reach the scene of the crime between 1:05 and 1:10.

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Tue 28 Apr 2020, 3:57 pm
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Tue 28 Apr 2020, 6:33 pm
Yes, excellent analysis, Mick.

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Tue 28 Apr 2020, 9:44 pm
Agreed with Greg and Goban. Great stuff,Mick.

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Fri 01 May 2020, 3:06 pm
Markham's WC testimony:

Mr. BALL. You left your home to go to work at some time, didn't you, that day?
Mrs. MARKHAM. At one.
Mr. BALL. One o'clock?
Mrs. MARKHAM. I believe it was a little after 1.
Mr. BALL. Where did you intend to catch the bus?
Mrs. MARKHAM. On Patton and Jefferson.



When Pressed by Ball further she replied,


Mr. BALL. You think it was a little after 1?
Mrs. MARKHAM. I wouldn't be afraid to bet it wasn't 6 or 7 minutes after 1.
Mr. BALL. You know what time you usually get your bus, don't you?
Mrs. MARKHAM. 1:15.
Mr. BALL. So it was before 1:15?
Mrs. MARKHAM. Yes, it was.



The FBI noted that Markham's walk to the bus stop on Patton and Jefferson would take approximately 2 minutes 30 seconds. 
The bus she would catch is noted to be the 1:12pm.


https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11029#relPageId=73


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Ted Calloway states in his November 22nd Affidavit in any fact that he heard shots at about 1.00pm.

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T. F. Bowley stated this hand written Affidavit in any fact that he spotted the police squad car on Tenth with the officer lying next to the front left hand wheel as he drove along Tenth. He noted that several people had already gathered at the scene. He also writes that he got out of his car and noticed that his watch showed the time at 1.10pm.

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth339132/m1/1/

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Allowing for Markham to catch her bus at 1.12pm and her 2 minute 30 second walk to the bus stop from her house then this would most likely see her having left home sometime just after 1.00pm.

According to Calloway's Affidavit taken on the 22nd November he recollects hearing shots at around 1.00pm.


And finally according to T. F. Bowley's 22nd November Affidavit he drove from his daughters school (R. L. Thornotn Elementary) Singing Hills after picking her up at around 12.55pm. He was on his way to collect his wife from work at the telephone company on Ninth and Zangs when he came across the Tippit scene on Tenth.

If Bowley was accurate in his recollection of the timing - then his 1.10pm glance at his watch as he approached the scene with people already gathered suggests Tippit was killed some minutes before then.

These timelines are very suggestive at least to my mind that Tippit was killed sometime between 1.00pm and 1.09pm. 

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I'm assuming D.O.A means just that. This states Tippit was pronounced Dead at 1.15pm by the hospital staff. Allowing for the time it might possibly take to make that decision then the Ambulance could have arrived at the hospital sometime prior to 1.15pm.

Interestingly the Tippit Police supplementary offence report written here has the pronouncement of Tippit's death typed in as 1.15pm. Clearly this time was altered in that report from what looks like either 1.00pm 1.06pm or 1.08pm.

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Fri 01 May 2020, 6:57 pm
Thanks Mick. Pure, clean and simple. Not even a close call. This nails it. 

No way in living hell could the WC get him to the showdown on time (the real time, that is).

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T. F. Bowley stated in this hand written Affidavit in any fact that he spotted the police squad car on Tenth with the officer lying next to the front left hand wheel as he drove along Tenth. He noted that several people had already gathered at the scene. He also writes that he got out of his car and noticed that his watch showed the time at 1.10pm.

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth339132/m1/1/

According to T F Bowley's Affidavit on the 22nd November his journey from the school where he had picked up his daughter at the R. L. Thornton Elementary school and then onto the Tippit murder scene on E Tenth corroborates his timing of events. He states he left the school around 12.55pm. He also states that just after having arrived at the Tippit scene he looked at his watch. The time he noted was 1.10pm.

A quick view of Google maps shows us that the journey he spoke of driving North on Marsalis as he stated in his affidavit would have taken approximately 15 minutes. This confirms at least to my mind that Bowley was being truthful about his recollection of the timing of events.


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Bowley's story all but confirms the timeline for J. D. Tippit having been killed before 1.10pm.

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T. F. Bowley 2nd December Affidavit. 1:10pm Looked at his watch.





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Barbara Davis 22nd November Affidavit.   Shortly after 1:00pm.     -   I heard a shot.




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Sam Guinyard Affidavit 22nd November.   Today at about 1:00pm - I heard some shooting.
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Helen Markham 22nd November Affidavit.  At approximately 1:06pm .






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Ted Calloway 22nd November Affidavit.  I heard some shots. This was about 1:00pm

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The Radical Right and the Murder of John F. Kennedy: 
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This interview with Holan was clearly done years after the fact by researcher Michael Brownlow.
It tends to agree with the very early affidavits taken on or around November 22nd 1963.


And this from Higgins,

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We know from the recordings we have in the public domain now that the timeline on those transcripts of the transmissions around the time of Officer Tippit's last known confirmed radio message at 12.54pm - that the timeline on the police log starts to become problematic when trying to match the radio calls to the witness statements. That includes Doctors statements, police statements, ambulance drivers statements and eye witnesses to the Tippit murder. Nothing on the radio log we see or hear today between the time of  12.54pm and 1. 26 pm - possibly  longer seems to correlate with what witnesses statements from the 22nd November have shown. There are also two possible erasures which seem to be evident on the existing copy of the radio log which occur just after the time of Tippit allegedly being sent to a disturbance call. If they are erasures then that is highly suspicious to my mind.


The document here is A Secret Service Communication signed and dated 1st December 1963.


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A USSSTD document dated 1st December 1963. 
Investigation initiated 29-30 November.

Police Radio Channels 1 and 2 were to be sent to the US Washington Protective Research Section for filtering, re-recording, and transcription.

There is very good reason to believe that erasures might have been made in the copy of the radio log which would be be sent back to the Dallas police Dept.
Any audio transmissions from the original Police radio logs, channels 1 and 2 which did not correlate with the unfolding narrative could have been deleted, edited or added in at the WPRS.


Interestingly the Synopsis stated in the document for the reason for performing the re-recording and transcriptions was to track the "flight" of Lee Oswald from the scene of the assassination to the scene of Tippit's murder.

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Thanks Vinny,

this only adds to suspicion. Documents in MFF claim the were responding to a "disturbance call", not making a routine check.

And what was he doing wrong? All that is said here is that they "saw a lone man drinking at a booth." So why did they want him to go out to the squad car? 

I bet none of the ten witnesses were asked for statements.

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Myers Vs The Education Forum.

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Most clocks run slow because their power source weakens (especially those mechanically or battery powered) or is interrupted. I would suppose that the clock used to note Tippit’s time of death was an electrically mounted wall clock powered by the hospital’s building current. How likely is it that the hospital had power outages totaling 15 minutes? If this was a known problem, why didn’t anyone use their personal watch?

Myers believes that Tippit’s killer was walking west toward Tippit’s approaching car when the killer did an about face which aroused Tippit’s suspicion. I find this plausible. However, if you accept Myers time of the shooting as 1:16:30 and Oswald as the shooter, you have to then account for the extra time Oswald would have spent walking past the shooting site AND retracing his steps. You also have to explain why Oswald would have been walking at such a rapid pace as though he has a specific destination in mind and then suddenly change direction by 180 degrees. Alternatively, if you accept the WC scenario, you would also have to explain why Oswald would change direction 180 degrees after the shooting.

I don’t accept the acoustics evidence for the number of shots or location of origin largely because of the location of the open microphone. If the dictabelts are altered, does that impeach the acoustics evidence?
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I think Greg's theory is the correct and logical one. The Tippit murder was not related to the assassination but was a unrelated gang murder. It was some elements in the DPD who made it seem that way by framing Oswald for both.

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