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Why Officer Tippit Stopped His Killer
Wed 10 Jul 2019, 4:09 pm
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https://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/why-officer-tippit-stopped-his-killer
New article at Jim's site. Claims that Officer Tippit was likely murdered in an attempt to further the same conspiracy.
Why Officer Tippit Stopped His Killer
https://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/why-officer-tippit-stopped-his-killer
New article at Jim's site. Claims that Officer Tippit was likely murdered in an attempt to further the same conspiracy.
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Re: Why Officer Tippit Stopped His Killer
Tue 18 Jul 2023, 12:28 pm
A USSSTD document dated 1st December 1963.
Investigation initiated 29-30 November.
Police Radio Channels 1 and 2 were to be sent to the US Washington Protective Research Section for filtering, re-recording, and transcription.
There is very good reason to believe that erasures might have been made in the copy of the radio log which would be be sent back to the Dallas police Dept.
Any audio transmissions from the original Police radio logs, channels 1 and 2 which did not correlate with the unfolding narrative could have been deleted, edited or added in at the WPRS.
Interestingly the Synopsis stated in the document for the reason for performing the re-recording and transcriptions was to track the "flight" of Lee Oswald from the scene of the assassination to the scene of Tippit's murder.
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Re: Why Officer Tippit Stopped His Killer
Tue 18 Jul 2023, 12:29 pm
The following is an excerpt from a letter written to Joachim Joesten concerning a Shirley Martin interview with Hugh Aynesworth, Dallas Morning News reporter.
[size=13]“… It has intrigued me that Aynesworth was so convinced in his conversation with me that Tippit had been killed around 1 p.m. Aynesworth is extraordinarily proud of the fact that he is the only reporter in the United States to have been at all four major scenes (the assassination, the Tippit killing immediately after, the arrest of Oswald in the Texas Theater, and the murder of Oswald in the police basement).
When I praised Mr. Aynesworth for this and suggested that perhaps he should have been considered for the Pulitzer Prize (rather than Mr. [Merriman] Smith whom Mr. Aynesworth claims does not deserve the prize as another Dallas reporter did all his, Smith’s, writing for him), Mr. Aynesworth modestly admitted to an oversight on the part of the committee, but continued to speak at great length over his four unique experiences.
When I asked Mr. Aynesworth how and when he first heard about Tippit, he replied: “I was standing near the Texas Book Building, all the other reporters had gone to Parkland (Hospital), but I felt a story was breaking near the building, when I heard a squad radio blast out that a policeman had been shot in Oak Cliff. This was around one o’clock.
I ran to the car and went with it to Patton and Tenth. I had a hunch that the policeman’s murder was tied in with the assassination. I got to the Tenth Street area about 1:05, no later than 1:10 p.m. …” [1]
Years later, Aynesworth gave author Larry Sneed additional details. [2] He was at the police command post at the corner of Houston and Elm with Inspector Herbert Sawyer, Sgt. Calvin Owens, Sgt. Gerald Hill, Assistant District Attorney Bill Alexander, and news reporter Jim Ewell. As Gerald Hill urged Sawyer to get the crime lab over to the Texas School Book Depository, the police radio traffic was interrupted: “This is a citizen. A policeman’s been shot! He’s hurt pretty bad, I think!” The citizen then gave the location.
If Tippit was shot at precisely 1:00 p.m. and Aynesworth heard the unknown citizen’s call two to three minutes later, then Craig’s time of 1:06 represents the time that it took for a messenger from the command post on the street to reach the search party on the sixth floor.
The unknown citizen’s call at 1:02 or 1:03 does not appear in the transcript of police radio messages. On the audio recording at precisely 1:02 there is 30 seconds of noise, indicating an erasure. About a minute later, at 1:03, the dispatcher attempted to reach Tippit and got no response.
After receiving the call, Hill, Alexander, and Owens promptly left for Oak Cliff. Aynesworth went with WFAA-TV newsmen Ron Reiland and Vic Robertson in the Channel 8 cruiser.
Reiland drove the cruiser recklessly, making a lot of fast moves to pass other cars and barreling through intersections as fast as he could go, using an illegal flashing light accessory to warn other drivers. These details show how the three newsmen managed to reach the scene of the crime between 1:05 and 1:10.[/size]
[size=13]“… It has intrigued me that Aynesworth was so convinced in his conversation with me that Tippit had been killed around 1 p.m. Aynesworth is extraordinarily proud of the fact that he is the only reporter in the United States to have been at all four major scenes (the assassination, the Tippit killing immediately after, the arrest of Oswald in the Texas Theater, and the murder of Oswald in the police basement).
When I praised Mr. Aynesworth for this and suggested that perhaps he should have been considered for the Pulitzer Prize (rather than Mr. [Merriman] Smith whom Mr. Aynesworth claims does not deserve the prize as another Dallas reporter did all his, Smith’s, writing for him), Mr. Aynesworth modestly admitted to an oversight on the part of the committee, but continued to speak at great length over his four unique experiences.
When I asked Mr. Aynesworth how and when he first heard about Tippit, he replied: “I was standing near the Texas Book Building, all the other reporters had gone to Parkland (Hospital), but I felt a story was breaking near the building, when I heard a squad radio blast out that a policeman had been shot in Oak Cliff. This was around one o’clock.
I ran to the car and went with it to Patton and Tenth. I had a hunch that the policeman’s murder was tied in with the assassination. I got to the Tenth Street area about 1:05, no later than 1:10 p.m. …” [1]
Years later, Aynesworth gave author Larry Sneed additional details. [2] He was at the police command post at the corner of Houston and Elm with Inspector Herbert Sawyer, Sgt. Calvin Owens, Sgt. Gerald Hill, Assistant District Attorney Bill Alexander, and news reporter Jim Ewell. As Gerald Hill urged Sawyer to get the crime lab over to the Texas School Book Depository, the police radio traffic was interrupted: “This is a citizen. A policeman’s been shot! He’s hurt pretty bad, I think!” The citizen then gave the location.
If Tippit was shot at precisely 1:00 p.m. and Aynesworth heard the unknown citizen’s call two to three minutes later, then Craig’s time of 1:06 represents the time that it took for a messenger from the command post on the street to reach the search party on the sixth floor.
The unknown citizen’s call at 1:02 or 1:03 does not appear in the transcript of police radio messages. On the audio recording at precisely 1:02 there is 30 seconds of noise, indicating an erasure. About a minute later, at 1:03, the dispatcher attempted to reach Tippit and got no response.
After receiving the call, Hill, Alexander, and Owens promptly left for Oak Cliff. Aynesworth went with WFAA-TV newsmen Ron Reiland and Vic Robertson in the Channel 8 cruiser.
Reiland drove the cruiser recklessly, making a lot of fast moves to pass other cars and barreling through intersections as fast as he could go, using an illegal flashing light accessory to warn other drivers. These details show how the three newsmen managed to reach the scene of the crime between 1:05 and 1:10.[/size]
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Re: Why Officer Tippit Stopped His Killer
Tue 18 Jul 2023, 12:30 pm
excerpt from a letter written to Joachim Joesten concerning a Shirley Martin interview with Hugh Aynesworth, Dallas Morning News reporter.
The unknown citizen’s call at 1:02 or 1:03 does not appear in the transcript of police radio messages.
On the audio recording at precisely 1:02 there is 30 seconds of noise, indicating an erasure.
About a minute later, at 1:03, the dispatcher attempted to reach Tippit and got no response.
The unknown citizen’s call at 1:02 or 1:03 does not appear in the transcript of police radio messages.
On the audio recording at precisely 1:02 there is 30 seconds of noise, indicating an erasure.
About a minute later, at 1:03, the dispatcher attempted to reach Tippit and got no response.
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Re: Why Officer Tippit Stopped His Killer
Tue 18 Jul 2023, 12:34 pm
The article you cited implies that Allan Tippit was called to the office while in the class that was watching the motorcade on television. I assume it was the arrival at and departure from Love Field as the motorcade was not televised since deploying those bulky cameras and transmitting equipment to catch a motorcade was not feasible in those days. The arrival/departure times at Love Field were 11:30-11:50 AM.
According to Bill Drenas, Tippit was having lunch at home between 11:15 and 11:50.
I think it’s likely that Allan was called out of an earlier class or the school nurse’s office when his mother picked him up.
There is a Youtube blogger who claims JD and Allan Tippit were in Dealey Plaza and had a role in the assassination. I don’t know who he is and he does not allow comments. His voice sounds like another Youtuber who commented on the JFK assassination Robert Harris who I don’t think is active any more. I think his theory is completely implausible but it’s possible to uncover useful facts and draw unfounded conclusions. Maybe he has addressed this.
Added comment: This guy does not address Allan Tippit’s absence from school. He claims Allan Tippit was switching handbags with the Chisms in a scenario so strange I stopped viewing. He’s also very anti-PrayerMan to a maniacal degree.
According to Bill Drenas, Tippit was having lunch at home between 11:15 and 11:50.
I think it’s likely that Allan was called out of an earlier class or the school nurse’s office when his mother picked him up.
There is a Youtube blogger who claims JD and Allan Tippit were in Dealey Plaza and had a role in the assassination. I don’t know who he is and he does not allow comments. His voice sounds like another Youtuber who commented on the JFK assassination Robert Harris who I don’t think is active any more. I think his theory is completely implausible but it’s possible to uncover useful facts and draw unfounded conclusions. Maybe he has addressed this.
Added comment: This guy does not address Allan Tippit’s absence from school. He claims Allan Tippit was switching handbags with the Chisms in a scenario so strange I stopped viewing. He’s also very anti-PrayerMan to a maniacal degree.
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Re: Why Officer Tippit Stopped His Killer
Tue 18 Jul 2023, 1:09 pm
Mick_Purdy wrote:Quoting from a 1967 interview with dispatcher Murray Jackson:
We had received a call from a citizen. They called us on the telephone and the call sheet came - came to me and there was a disturbance in street in the 400 block of East 10th.
We know that someone has telephoned into Dallas Police around or just prior to 1.00pm for the above call.
This radio dispatch call to 78 was made sometime between 1:01:00pm 1:02:30pm. This call to 78 is claimed to have been erased from the recording.
That 30 seconds possibly included Tippit's response to dispatch.
I suspect that was Mary Wright who lived on the 500 block of 10th St. She and her husband heard the shots, went out to see what happened, saw that a man was lying in the street that was likely a victim of the gunshots. Mary Wright claimed that she called the operator within a minute and reported the disturbance. The Wrights were too far away to identify the victim as a police officer. The police operator directly called Dudley Hughs to send an ambulance to 501 10th St. Just afterwards, one of the employees of Reynolds Motors on 501 East Jefferson who had heard the shots from a block away also called the police. These calls were the cause of the confusion heard in the radio transmissions regarding the location of the shooting.
Re: Why Officer Tippit Stopped His Killer
Tue 18 Jul 2023, 2:22 pm
You may be right, but what he said is that they watched the motorcade and news of the assassination... it is then that he mentions Alan being called to the principall's office.lanceman wrote:The article you cited implies that Allan Tippit was called to the office while in the class that was watching the motorcade on television. I assume it was the arrival at and departure from Love Field as the motorcade was not televised since deploying those bulky cameras and transmitting equipment to catch a motorcade was not feasible in those days. The arrival/departure times at Love Field were 11:30-11:50 AM.
According to Bill Drenas, Tippit was having lunch at home between 11:15 and 11:50.
I think it’s likely that Allan was called out of an earlier class or the school nurse’s office when his mother picked him up.
There is a Youtube blogger who claims JD and Allan Tippit were in Dealey Plaza and had a role in the assassination. I don’t know who he is and he does not allow comments. His voice sounds like another Youtuber who commented on the JFK assassination Robert Harris who I don’t think is active any more. I think his theory is completely implausible but it’s possible to uncover useful facts and draw unfounded conclusions. Maybe he has addressed this.
Added comment: This guy does not address Allan Tippit’s absence from school. He claims Allan Tippit was switching handbags with the Chisms in a scenario so strange I stopped viewing. He’s also very anti-PrayerMan to a maniacal degree.
He also says they never learned why (he was called) until the next day and then launches into a despcription of Tippit being murdered by Oswald, implying that the death of his father was the reason.
The guy you are talking about has a kangaroo loose in the top paddock.
If you are right, then there is no discrepancy, but though the story could have been clearer, I just don't see it saying what you claim.
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Re: Why Officer Tippit Stopped His Killer
Tue 18 Jul 2023, 7:57 pm
greg_parker wrote:You may be right, but what he said is that they watched the motorcade and news of the assassination... it is then that he mentions Alan being called to the principall's office.lanceman wrote:The article you cited implies that Allan Tippit was called to the office while in the class that was watching the motorcade on television. I assume it was the arrival at and departure from Love Field as the motorcade was not televised since deploying those bulky cameras and transmitting equipment to catch a motorcade was not feasible in those days. The arrival/departure times at Love Field were 11:30-11:50 AM.
According to Bill Drenas, Tippit was having lunch at home between 11:15 and 11:50.
I think it’s likely that Allan was called out of an earlier class or the school nurse’s office when his mother picked him up.
There is a Youtube blogger who claims JD and Allan Tippit were in Dealey Plaza and had a role in the assassination. I don’t know who he is and he does not allow comments. His voice sounds like another Youtuber who commented on the JFK assassination Robert Harris who I don’t think is active any more. I think his theory is completely implausible but it’s possible to uncover useful facts and draw unfounded conclusions. Maybe he has addressed this.
Added comment: This guy does not address Allan Tippit’s absence from school. He claims Allan Tippit was switching handbags with the Chisms in a scenario so strange I stopped viewing. He’s also very anti-PrayerMan to a maniacal degree.
He also says they never learned why (he was called) until the next day and then launches into a despcription of Tippit being murdered by Oswald, implying that the death of his father was the reason.
The guy you are talking about has a kangaroo loose in the top paddock.
If you are right, then there is no discrepancy, but though the story could have been clearer, I just don't see it saying what you claim.
Is that Sky Throne?
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Re: Why Officer Tippit Stopped His Killer
Tue 18 Jul 2023, 11:21 pm
“The guy you are talking about has a kangaroo loose in the top paddock.”
I will have to remember that one!
He’s certainly out in there in the ozone.
I will have to remember that one!
He’s certainly out in there in the ozone.
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