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I'm curious to know why no one is interested in Boris Pash? A man who lied to Church Senate Committee about his retirement to cover up his knowledge of Oswald

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Wed 08 Oct 2014, 1:24 pm
Guy Banister connection to white Russian FBI mentor in 1935 was transferred
to New York City. He worked around the northern US on special assignment
for about three years, working alongside Special Agent George Starr.
Starr was the FBI's top man in investigating subversives, meaning largely
leftist activity. Starr spoke fluent Russian; his father had been a horse
trainer for the Czar. Starr familiarized Banister with the activity of
the Communist Party, and notes that Starr is credited with developing the
FBI's anti-Communist investigations. Banister writes, "After I was
promoted to SAC [Special Agent in Charge], it was my duty to supervise
the work of Special Agents assigned to such activity. It was also my duty
to develop and supervise those people commonly called informers. To be
more specific, we might say that they were counterspies sent in to report
on the activities of the Party members.

Banister's publication, the Louisiana Intelligence Digest, maintained that the civil rights movement was part of an international communist conspiracy and was treasonous. A black reporter, Louis E. Lomax, investigating the possible connection of Banister to the assassinations of Kennedy, and Malcolm X, died in a car accident shortly after signing a contract to help with a movie about the assassination of Malcolm X.
Death[edit]
Banister died of coronary thrombosis on June 6, 1964. Banister's files went to various people after his death. Later, New Orleans Assistant District Attorney Andrew Sciambra interviewed Banister's widow. She told him that she saw some Fair Play for Cuba leaflets in Banister's office when she went there after his death


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 CIA Use of Nazi Research

The following are not all Nazi war criminals hired to work
for the U.S. though several are. All of them worked with
such, and/or worked at similar unethical experiments.
Col. Boris Pash.   Started CIA radiation warfare research,
     had made CIA assassination teams from Nazi recruits,
     directed the Alsos Mission to locate and whitewash useful
     Nazi war criminals, and siezed 70,000 tons of uranium ore
     and radium.
https://www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/msg51003.html
[url=http://books.google.co.th/books?id=_YQVAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA177&lpg=PA177&dq=george+star+and+boris+pash&source=bl&ots=7DPhNbVmE0&sig=jEA2x_WG6-HBBnDvPPB1U5vFZkg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=vRE0VKPcM8q5uAS-1IK4Ag&ved=0CDUQ6AEwBDgK#v=onepage&q=george star and boris pash&f=false]http://books.google.co.th/books?id=_YQVAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA177&lpg=PA177&dq=george+star+and+boris+pash&source=bl&ots=7DPhNbVmE0&sig=jEA2x_WG6-HBBnDvPPB1U5vFZkg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=vRE0VKPcM8q5uAS-1IK4Ag&ved=0CDUQ6AEwBDgK#v=onepage&q=george%20star%20and%20boris%20pash&f=false[/url]
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Thu 09 Oct 2014, 11:10 pm
There is somethings intriging about Guy Banister FBI career other then working with George Starr
 5/11/38  Assistant SAC in Newark NJ
  GB        8/14/38  SAC in Butte MO

  GB         8/6/41  "transferred to Oakland City"
John Faln worked for Banister when he
 received a transfer to Oklahoma City, where I was 3 weeks, and then they stationed me at Tulsa, Okla., as a resident agent, where I remained approximately a year. I then was transferred to San Francisco, Calif, where I remained for approximately 2 years; and in December of 1945 I was transferred to Dallas
 Guy B         11/4/43  "transferred back to Butte"


 GB         10/1/51  SAC in Minneapolis MN

   GB      1/4/54  SAC in Chicago IL

    GD      12/12/54  retires from FBI
 Boris Pash responsabilities with Manhattan project was intelligence for all of Western USA including the heavy water plant in my home town of Trail BC HE worked with FBI in both Fain and Banisters area SF and Butte

 Oswalds Gen. Walker's background was as an artilleryman, but during World War II, he commanded a sub-unit of the Canadian-American First Special Service Force. Walker took command of one of the force's three regiments while still in the United States
 Walkers task was to blowup the Nazi  heavy water plant in Norway. They trained 30 miles from Butte in 43

The Dumas Brothel (formerly the Dumas Hotel) was a famous bordello in Butte, Montana in the United States. Located in the heart of uptown Butte, the brothel has been proclaimed America's longest-running house of prostitution closed in 1982


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Fri 10 Oct 2014, 1:12 pm
Guerrillas for World War III

excerpted from the book

Blowback

America's recruitment of Nazis,
and its disastrous effect on our domestic and foreign policy

by Christopher Simpson

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Fascism/Guerrillas_B_CS.html
Col.Boris Pash Nazi Assassination Army
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Sat 11 Oct 2014, 9:46 pm
April 1950 – The CIA Director Roscoe Hillenkoetter, launched Operation Bluebird, to find methods of interrogation by using teams with a psychiatrist and a hypnotist. A review of Operation Paperclip, Nazi interrogations using drugs, electro shock, hypnosis and psycho surgery. Operation Bluebird also tested LSD.
289 April 1950 – The CIA BLUEBIRD was a project to study brainwashing and other thought control techniques. (Brainwash. Dominic Streatfeild ©2006 UK).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainwash:_The_Secret_History_of_Mind_Control
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Sun 12 Oct 2014, 9:25 pm
A very interesting connection between  Boris Pash and Priest that batised LHO baby
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh23/pdf/WH23_CE_1957-A.pdf

http://orthodoxwiki.org/Dmitri_(Royster)_of_Dallas

http://orthodoxwiki.org/Boris_T._Pash
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Sun 12 Oct 2014, 9:33 pm
gerrrycam wrote:A very interesting connection between  Boris Pash and Priest that batised LHO baby
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh23/pdf/WH23_CE_1957-A.pdf

http://orthodoxwiki.org/Dmitri_(Royster)_of_Dallas

http://orthodoxwiki.org/Boris_T._Pash
Thank you, Gerry.

This is the kind of thing that gets my attention. 

It will definitely be on my "to do" list to look into further -- and may very well be the "tie-in" to Pash that I needed to get me more than just mildly curious about him.

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JFK Assassination - Page 9 BanfugoFBI Special Agent W G Banister examines Fu-Go that fell in Kalispell, Montana on December 11, 1944.  Army Air Force Maj J E Bolgiano studies balloon's pressure relief valve as Army Intelligence Capt W Boyce Stanard looks on [2]
 
JFK Assassination - Page 9 47banThe 1947 "Disc crash" reports followed a similar pattern, as in this hoax case investigated by Banister [Tacoma News-Tribune, 12 July 47]:
FBI Drums Up Cymbals-Like 'Disk' in Idaho
BUTTE, Mont, July 11 - AP - FBI Agent W.  G.  Banister said an object which appeared to be a "flying disk" was found early today at Twin Falls, Ida. , and turned over to federal authorities there.
Banister, special agent in charge of the FBI in Montana and Idaho, said the bureau had reported the discovery to the army at Fort Douglas, Utah. 
An FBI agent in Twin Falls inspected the "saucer" and described it as similar to the "cymbals used by a drummer in a band, placed face to
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Wed 15 Oct 2014, 2:13 pm
Oswald's military files would probably straighten out any
misunderstandings resulting from Oswald's perplexing record -- especially
a file specifically concerned with any intelligence activities with which
Oswald may have been involved. In fact, the 112th Military Intelligence
Group at Fort Sam Houston in Texas maintained a file on a 'Harvey Lee
Oswald,' according to Lt. Col. Robert E. Jones. Oswald was described as a
pro-communist who had been in Russia, been involved in pro-Castro
activities in New Orleans, and used the alias Alik Hidell. The Warren
Commission specifically asked to see any military files regarding Oswald,
but were never shown the Army file mentioned by Lt. Col. Jones. In 1978,
when the House Select Committee on Assassinations learned of the file,
and requested it from the Army, they were informed that the file had been
'routinely destroyed' in 1973" (174).
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Gerry,

Jones stated under oath that the file only contained some inter-agency reports and a few news clippings. I have flicked through his testimony quickly to refresh memory and can't see any reference to the file being under "Harvey Lee Oswald".
http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/unpub_testimony/Jones_4-20-78/html/jones_0001a.htm
You are right in saying he claimed the files showed "Hidell" as an alias -- and that is a huge red flag. The sole source for this alleged alias was the NOPD after Oswald's arrest.

But Oswald never admitted to using that name as an alias. He claimed Hidell was a separate person. That is as much as the NOPD knew at that time.

So now all that's needed is an NOPD report that shows that they investigated "Alex Hidell" and concluded it was NOT a real person at all, but was merely an alias used by Oswald. If you can find such a pre-assassination report, I'd love to see it.

Absence of such a report has to draw suspicion upon any claim by the 112th that they knew Hidell was an Oswald alias.

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Thanks Greg for link to  Jones full testamony, i had only viewed snippets of it. Prior to  his June 1963 Texas job he would have personal knowledge of defectors from his Intelligent unit in West Germany, I only got to page 17 when Genzman asked Jones if he knew PEER DESILVA. Jones said no. Desilva was Boris Pash right hand man in 1942 investigating Reds in Mahattan project. more importantly he was  CIA station chief in Saigon VN in 1964 plus he was Author of  Phoenix Program
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Program
Parts of Phoenix was to assassinate VN politacal leaders useing Green Beret Assassin unit. deSilva wrote a book in 1978 'Sub Rosa: The CIA and the Uses of Intelligence"  He allso died in 78

Pashs link to deSilva
"Hunt Says Boris Pash Oppenheimer Accuser"*
Mr Pash: Well, I was never the security officer, or a security officer in the Manhattan Project. I conducted security operations for the Manhattan
Project but I was doing that as an Army Intelligence Officer assigned to the Fourth Army for Western Defense Command
Mr Pash: To put it straight [Peer] de Silva was a Lieutenant who came into my office in'42, shortly after graduating from West Point, and he was
put on - - I was then Chief of CounterrIntelligence for the Fourth Army in Western Defense Command, and he was working at the Communist desk
and I had him reviewing some of the reports and asked him to prepare a memorandum. His memorandum was a very well prepared memorandum.
The material was very well analyzed.......
I put a covering letter on it and sent it to the War Department so that de Silva would get credit for his work, rather than I getting credit for
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Gerald Campeau
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, THE RUSH TO ASSASSINATE DIEM .22 days before JFK
CIA was urging a cautious, slow approach to the problem.
In Saigon, however, Ambassador Lodge had begun to criticize CIA Station Chief John Richardson sharply, and word of this development soon appeared in the press. McCone recorded in a memorandum for the record, dated 26 September, that because the Agency had been urging "care and deliberation" since Hilsman's 24 August cable, this caution had proved "highly exasperatin...g to those who wished to move precipitously," and explained why those enthusiasts were now moving swiftly, "without coordination and without intelligence support, and why they were carrying on a campaign against the CIA and the Station."(38) On that same day, 26 September, James Reston of The New York Times told McCone that the press attacks on the CIA had been "obviously planted . . . probably a good deal of it from Harriman," and that because the CIA had been taking a reserved position since late August, this might be causing "pain to some of those who wished to rush ahead."
McCone continued to urge caution on these scores throughout October, the last month before Saigon's dissident generals finally carried out their coup. According to later testimony, in a meeting with the President on 5 October 1963 McCone told Kennedy that "if I was manager of a baseball team, [and] I had one pitcher, I'd keep him in the box whether he was a good pitcher or not'; McCone explained to the Senate's Church Committee in 1975 that by this he had meant that if Diem were removed, there would be not one coup but a succession of coups and political disorder in Vietnam.
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Testimony at Church Committy

The Deputy Chief did not recall any discussion at the CIA of the assassination or kidnapping aspects of this charter because, compared
to the charters of the other program branches, he believed that PB/7's
charter was "more secret than any of the others.'' **^ He construed the
charter's reference to "higher authority'' to include "State Department, Defense Department, National Security Council, the President of the United States.'' "'

Boris Pash did not recall "particular wording" in a charter that included a reference to assassinations, but he did not dispute the accuracy of the Deputy Chief's testimony: "It could have been there
without my recalling it, but I didn't give it any serious consideration
because I knew that ... it would be beyond us." **

The Director of Operations Planning did not recall the charter of
PB/7, but he testified that whether or not there was a written directive
"it was clear"' to everyone iii OPC that assassination and kidnapping
"was within the purview" of Pash's responsibilities.*'-* The Director
testified that "the heads of the program branches" were all involved in
general discussions of assassination as a tactic, although the subject
did not have a high priority.^" The Director of Operations Planning
said that Colonel Pash was entrusted with this jurisdiction not be-
cause he had performed any assassination in the past, but because he
had a general background in clandestine operations in World War II."

None of the witnesses testified that any actual assassination operation or planning was ever undertaken by PB/7, which was disbanded
along with the other pi-ogram branches when the DDP was formed in
late 1952.^- Pash testified that he was "never in charge of or involved


** Pash, 1/7/76, p. 22. Pash siieculated that the reason he may have dismissed
charter language relating to assassination was that lie saw it as a part of the
wartime mentality carried into the CIA's clandestine services by former oflScers
who served in the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) during World War II:

"I probably just sort of glanced over it, thinking well, this is a typical OSS
approach to things ... to them using words like that is maybe a common
thing. ... I think they felt big in talking that way.

". . . There were some very good men in OSS, some dedicated men. . . . But
also there were a lot of entrepreneurs and adventurers. ... So when the CIA
was formed, a lot of these people with these wild ideas and wild approaches
were there. So, of course, when you say you're in charge of 'all other activities'
. . . these fellows might have ideas [such as] . . . 'it's easier to kill a guy than
to worry about trailing him'." (Pash. pp. 15-16, 22.) • ,

" Director of Operations Planning, 1/12/76, pp. 18-19, 26.

^^ Ibid. p. 12. The Director explained the reason for discu.ssion of assassination in the early phase of organzing OPC after World War II :

"One of the things that was taken into account and was discussed on a sort of last ditch basis was assassination . . . [I]t was a matter of keeping up with
the Joneses. Every other power practiced, and as far as I know still practices,
assassination if need be. So, reluctantly we took that into account." (Director
of Operations Planning, 1/12/76, p. 8. )

''^Director of Operations Planning, 1/12/76, p. 23. It should be noted that,
among his noteworthy activities in military intelligence, Colonel Pash was deco-
rated for his leadership of the Alsos Mission to protect nuclear secfeits at, the
end of World War II. ,

^^ Each area division in the DDP subsequently performed the functions which
the program branches had handled.



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in any assassination planning, nor ever requested to do so." ^^ Pash's
Deputy said that no action or planning was ever undertaken pursuant
to that portion of the PB/7 charter which assigned responsibility for
assassination and kidnapping.'^* The Director of Operations Plan-
ning testified that he knew of no assassination mission or planning,
including contingency planning, by Pash or anyone in OPC.^^
The only consideration of assassinations that the Director was aware
of was the general discussion among Pash and other program branch
chiefs in the process of establishing OPC.^*' Likewise, Howard Hunt
was unaware of any assassination planning or attempts by Pash.^^

B. The Hunt-Pash Meeting and the Handling of Double Agent
Prohlems

Howard Hunt testified that he once met with Boris Pash and his
Deputy to discuss "on hypothetical basis" a method of dealing with a
situation in which the CIA suspected that a double-agent was under-
mining the Agency's liaison with a group in West Germany. Although
suspicion had not yet focused on a particular agent, Hunt described
his inquiry to Pash as "a search mission to determine the alleged capa-
bility of Colonel Pash in 'wet aft'airs' . . . that is, liquidations, would
have any relevance to our particular problem." ^^ Hunt said that Pash
"seemed a little startled at the subject. He indicated that it was some-
thing that would have to be approved by higher authority and I with-
drew and never approached Colonel Pash again." ^^ Nonetheless, it was
Hunt's impression even after leaving the meeting with Pash that as-
sassination was one function of Pash's unit.^°

Hunt testified : "I never asked [Pash] to plan an assassination mis-
sion, I simply asked if he had the capability." ^'^ Pash did not encourage
the discussion, according to Hunt, and "made it very clear that if any-
body was going to get approval for such a thing, it would have to
be . . . my division ; ... he was not going to go forward." ^^ Hunt stated
that he believed that Pash was referring to Frank Wisner as "higher
authority," but Hunt did not think that Wisner ever considered the
idea : "no direct approach or a request for such approval was ever
made." '^^

Colonel Pash testified that he did not recall any incident like the
one described by Hunt : "I deny that I have ever talked to him about it
and that he ever asked me about it." ^* Pash did not recall "any dis-



" Pash, 1/7/76, pp. 23-25, 33. Pash added that he was philosophically opposed
to assassination except in extreme situations where "if you don't do it, the United
States is destroyed." (Pash, p. 28.)

" Deputy Chief, PB/7, 1/5/76, p. 64.

^ Director of Operations Planning, 1/12/76, p. 25.

=*7&!d., p. 26.

" Hunt, 1/10/76, pp. 12-13.

^Hunt, 1/10/76, pp. 8-11. Hunt said that "liquidations" included "removals"
by assassination or kidnapping.

"' Hunt, 1/10/76, p. 10.


" Pash, 1/7/76, p. 41.



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cussion of any donble-aoent-type activity anyplace." ^^ The Deputy
Chief of PB/7 also said that he knew "absolutely nothing" about the
incident recounted by Hunt.^^

Pash stated that PB/7 would not have dealt with double-agent
problems because his unit was more oriented to planning rather than
"operational" activity.*'^ Likewise, Pash's Deputy Chief testified that
PB/7 never handled double agent problems.^^

The Director of Operations Planning testified, however, that Pash's
unit would have had responsibility for the planning aspects of dealing
with a double-agent problem. But the Director was not aware of any
specific instances in which the "Special Operations" unit had to handle
a double-agent problem. The Director said that assassination or com-
plete isolation was generally regarded as the means of dealing with
a suspected double-agent.^^

C. Assassination Suggestions Rejected hy CIA Headquarters

The Deputy Chief of the "Special Operations" unit recounted two
instances where assassination was seriously suggested and, in both
instances, was quickly and firmly rejected at CIA headquarters.

1. Asian Leader

The Deputy Chief testified that in the summer of 1949, while he was
serving as Acting Chief of PB/7 because Boris Pash was out of the
country, the Chief of the CIA's political warfare program branch
approached him to request the assassination of an Asian leader. After
attending a planning meeting at the State Department, the Chief of
the political branch — who was the CIA's liaison with the State De-
partment — told Pash's deputy that the Asian leader "must be sent to
meet his ancestors." The Deputy Chief of PB/7 testified that the
political branch chief assured him that there was "higher authority"
for this request.'"

The Deputy Chief referred the request to OPC Director Frank
Wisner's assistant. Soon thereafter Wisner's assistant told the Deputy
Chief: "It has gone right to the top, and the answer is no . . , we
don't engage in such activities." He instructed the Deputy Chief to

"^ IhUL pp. 38, 48-49. Pash al.so .stated : "Mr. Hunt claims to have discu«sed
the alleged assassination matter with me sometime in 1954 and 1955, at least two
years after I left the Agency. ... I categorically deny having had any discus-
sion on any suhiect whatsoever with Mr. Hunt during tho.«e years." (p. 33) Hunt
testified tiiat his meeting with Pash could have occurred before 1950 or after
1953 — Hunt was on assignment to a non-European nation in the interim — but
that it was much more likely that the meeting took place in 1954 or 1955, during
which period Hunt was dealing with operations in West Germany. (Hunt,
1/10/76, p. 44— 4.J. ) It should be noted that Pash did undertake certain projects
in liaison with the CIA after his formal assignment terminated in January 1952.

■^ Deputy Chief, PB/7, 1/5/76, pp. 73-74.

'' Pash, 1/7/76, pp. 37-38, 48-^9.

•^ Deputy Chief, PB/7, 1/5/76, p. 67.

"" Director of Operations Planning, pp. 27, 34. He testified : "In the international clandestine operations business, it was part of the code that the
one and the only remedy for the unfrocked double-agent was to kill him . . .
and all double-agents knew that. That was part of the occupational hazard of the job. ... So in a shadowy sort of a way, we did have in mind that possibly
as a last ditch effort [assassination] might come up. But it didn't come up within
my time there because we were very slow in getting off the ground on any of
these activities." (Director of Operations Planning, 1/12/76, p. 9).

^ Deputy Chief, PB/7, 1/5/76, pp. 28, 30, 34.



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inform anyone involved of this position and to destroy any document
related to the incident. The Deputy Chief followed these instructions.
The Deputy Chief speculated that Wisner's assistant had been re-
ferring to the Director of Central Intelligence when he said that the
matter had gone to the "top." '^
2. East Asian Leader

The Deputy Chief testified that during his tenure at a CIA's sta-
tion in Asia,* where he served after PB/7 was disbanded, he sent a
cable to headquarters from the station outlining a proposed media
propaganda progi-am. He later learned that the other station officers
had attached an additional paragraph to his cable suggesting that an
East Asian leader should be assassinated to disrupt an impending
Communist conference in 1955.^-

A reply cable was received immediately from CIA headquarters
disapproving the recommendation to assassinate the East Asian leader.
According to the Deputy Chief, the cable "strongly censured" the
Station and indicated "in the strongest possible language this Agency
has never and never will engage in any such activities." The cable
added: "immediately proceed to burn all copies" of any documents
relating to this request." The Deputy Chief testified that a senior
representative from CIA headquarters arrived shortly at the station
to reprimand the officers involved in the incident."^^

III. THE QUESTION OF DISCREDITING ACTION AGAINST JACK ANDERSON

The Washington Post recently reported that, "according to reliable
sources," former CIA officer E. Howard Hunt, Jr., "told associates
after the Watergate break-in that he was ordered in December, 1971 or
January, 1972, to assassinate syndicated columnist Jack Anderson."
The Post further reported that Hunt had said that the order, which
came from a "senior official in the Nixon "Wliite House," was "cancelled
at the last minute but only after a plan had been devised to make
Anderson's death appear accidential." ''*

According to the newspaper article. Hunt's "alleged plan"

. . . involved the use of a poison to be obtained from a
former CIA physician, said the sources, who added that the
poison was a variety that would leave no trace during a
routine medical examination or autopsy.

Hunt told the sources Anderson was to be assassinated be-
cause he was publishing sensitive national security informa-
tion in his daily newspaper column . . J^

The Committee staff has found no evidence of a plan to assassinate
Jack Anderson. However, a White House effort was made in consul-
tation with a former CIA physician to explore means of drugging
Anderson to discredit him by rendering him incoherent before a public

^ Deputy Chief, PB/7, 1/5/76, pp. 35-37.
'- Ibid., pp. 47-48, 50.
''Ibid., pp. r)0-51, 56-57.

''* "Washington Post, "Hunt Told Associates of Orders to Kill Jack Anderson,"
by Bob Woodward, 9/21/75, p. Al, A20.
'^Ibid., p. 1.



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appearance. This effort apparently never proceeded beyond the plan-
ning stage.

The Committee staff inquiry into allegations of CIA involvement
in this matter produced no evidence of such involvement.

A. The Meeting Between Howard Hunt and Charles Colson

Howard Hunt testified that somewhere in late 1971 or early 1972
Special Counsel to the President Charles Colson called Hunt into his
office and asked him to find a means of discrediting newspaper
columnist Jack Anderson :

Mr. Colson at that juncture was — appeared rather nervous.
He . . . had a common wall with President Nixon's suite in
the Old Executive Office Building, and although he did not
glance in that direction, my impression was that he had been
with the President not too long before . . . [W]hat he
indicated to me was that Mr. Anderson had become a great
thorn in the side of the President and that ... it was
thought that one way to discredit Anderson was to have him
appear incoherent or rambling on a radio broadcast. . . .
Mr. Colson asked me if I could look into it.'^^

Hunt testified that neither Colson nor anyone else ever mentioned to
him the possibility of assassinating Anderson, even in the sense of
contingency planning.^^

Hunt stated that Colson never explicitly mentioned any discussion
witli President Nixon about discrediting Jack Anderson.^® Hunt's
impression that Colson had recently spoken with the President before
giving him the Anderson assignment was an "inference" Hunt drew
from Colson's demeanor :

Colson was normally a highly controlled individual. . . . He
was agitated when he called me in, sort of talking to me and
rifling through papers on his desk, which was very much
unlike him, and the inference I drew from that was that he
had just had a conversation with the President. So when I
accepted the assignment I assumed, as I usually do with
Colson, that he was either reflecting the desires of the Chief
Executive or else that he, as a prescient staff officer, was
attempting to find a solution to a problem that was troubling
his chief.^^

Like Hunt, Charles Colson testified that he "never heard anyone
discuss any plan to kill Jack Anderson," nor did anyone ever request
him to make such a plan.*" Colson could not, however, "discount the
possibility of having said something in jest" along this line.^^

Colson testified that he was asked "many times" by President Nixon
to take action to discredit Jack Anderson ; and action was "probably"
taken in response to those requests.*^ Colson did not recall being asked

'" Hunt, 1/11/76, pp. 4-5.

" Ihid., pp. 11, 15.

" Ihid., p. 11.
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In 1956, Crichton became commander of the 488th Military Intelligence Detachment, which operated under Lieutenant Colonel George Whitmeyer, the overall commander of all United States Army Reserve units in East Texas. According to Crichton, there were about a hundred men in the unit, with nearly half of them coming from the Dallas Police Department

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His close friend, Deputy Police Chief George L. Lumpkin, and a fellow member Lt. Colonel George Whitmeyer of the the 488th Military Intelligence Detachment, drove the pilot car of Kennedy's 

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Why He Died & Why It Matters,” and it is a story of turning, Kennedy turned towards peace and was therefore assassinated.Canada and US turn once more to endless war and the public is taken in again You can fool me once, you can fool me forever!
In the chapter on JFK and Vietnam, Douglas bring in Operation Northwoods, which many believe was incorporated in the assassination planning.
“On March 13, 1962, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, whom Kennedy inherited from the Eisenhower, General Lyman L. Lemnitzer, proposed ‘Operation Northwoods.’ It’s purpose was to justify a U.S. invasion of Cuba, in which a “Remember the Main incident could be arranged in several forms. We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba…” (p.96-97)
Kennedy rejected Northwoods, and his solution to the Vietnam problem was “Easy” the president said, “Put a government in there that will ask us to leave.” (p.134)
In Marked Out for Assassination, Douglas says that, “Investigative journalist Joseph Trento testified in a 1984 court deposition that, according to CIA sources, James Angleton was the supervisor of a CIA assassination unit in the 1950s. The ‘small assassination team’ was headed by Army colonel Boris Pash. At the end of World War II, Army Intelligence colonel Pash had rounded up Nazi scientists who could contribute their research skills to the development of U.S. nuclear and chemical weapons…” (p.143)
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Othar Joseph Shalikashvili At the age of 68 in 2001, Joe retired from active Army Duty. Bill Clinton 2nd term was up same time.From 1977 to 1978, he was the commander of the 10th Special Forces Group. This gruep was involved in Operations Watchtower along with 5 senior Officers.One by one they all died under mysterious circumstances.

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